i cant get them to detect. i tryed both setup and configure or whatever and i cant get them to work...

Are you using ide-scsi?
What does cdrecord -scanbus say?

Cheers,
Tink

really im still not sure the diff between scsi and ide. dnot know what i have. and how do i check the cdrecord -scanbus ?

Paste output here ;)

Cheers,
Tink

root@slackware:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
keybdev 1952 0 (unused)
mousedev 4212 1
hid 18596 0 (unused)
usbmouse 2008 0 (unused)
input 3200 0 [keybdev mousedev hid usbmouse]
uhci 24560 0 (unused)
usbcore 58144 1 [hid usbmouse uhci]
emu10k1 61288 1
ac97_codec 9512 0 [emu10k1]
soundcore 3332 4 [emu10k1]
emu10k1-gp 1352 0 (unused)
gameport 1452 0 [emu10k1-gp]
pcmcia_core 38112 0
ide-scsi 8048 0
8139too 15272 1
mii 2240 0 [8139too]
root@slackware:~# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 2.0 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI dr
iver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.
cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
root@slackware:~# dmesg

ide-scsi module loaded, that's good :}
Now:
less /proc/scsi/scsi

Cheers,
Tink

less /proc/scsi/scsi

where do i do that? in the terminal? or somewhere in k3b?

Attached devices: none
/proc/scsi/scsi lines 1-1/1 (END)

ok i took a shot and did it in term. and appears thats where i needed to do it and thats what i got

blah anyone know where i go from here? i really need to backup some important files.

Well. for some reason your CD-RW doesn't
seem to be spotted by the ide-scsi driver,
even though it's being loaded.

Go to /proc/ide, and check your detected
devices ...

Do an dmesg | grep -i cd
and check whether any lines corresponding
to your burner pop up.

Cheers,
Tink

ide-scsi is loaded, but you may not have selected any drives to be emulated as scsi. The easiest way I know of to do this is to give a kernel parameter like this:
You can pass this at startup by adding an append option under your Linux partition config in LILO (if you're using LILO).

troy@slackware:~$ cd /proc/ide
troy@slackware:/proc/ide$ ls
cmd64x drivers hda@ hdb@ hde@ hdf@ ide0/ ide2/ piix

thats what i get in /proc/ide

troy@slackware:/proc/ide$ dmesg | grep -i cd
hda: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdb: CR-48X5TE, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hda: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
hdb: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
cdrom: open failed.
cdrom: open failed.

i did all this after doing hdc=ide-scsi if that matters

On your system, it'd be:
hdb=ide-scsi

And can you post up your lilo.conf so we can see if you added it correctly? Basically, for global use of that (probably what you want) you'd add it above any kernel specific entries:
append ="hdb=ide-scsi"

Cool

OT:
Why are your cdrom devices on the first (primary) chain of the IDE channels? Normally, HD's are on Primary and CD's are on Secondary. You can do whatever you'd like, I'm just curious Sometimes RAID and similar setups have people do this, so again, I'm just wondering.

Cool

how do i post my lilo.conf. im almost sure that would be the problem. i was new to installing bootloader manualy. i used mandrake 9.1 before this. it did it for me. and my cd rom/cdburners are on the primary channel. because i have a beautiful Drive controller. Mobo is to old to recognize my 40gb and 80 gb HDDs