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Old 09-15-2003, 05:35 AM   #1
gonniff
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General MPlayer question


I'm very new to MPlayer (less than a week) and had to compile it a couple of times to get it to work.

It plays now - whoo hoo! - but compared to how things play on my windows partition (I'm using SuSE 8.2) MPlayer kinda lags behind.

Can anyone let me (the very much poorly informed) know why this would be (i.e. I know there are great developers out there for these tools, so it's not a lack of talent, I'm sure).

Is it just trying to get the hardware and software to speak to each other or is the technology for DVD's et al very much Microsoft driven? Thanks in advance.
 
Old 09-15-2003, 05:42 AM   #2
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you might want to try "mplayer -vo ..." type "mplayer -vo help" to get a list of video drivers, hope you understand, have fun :-)
 
Old 09-15-2003, 07:26 AM   #3
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fruibat_2000,

Thanks for your reply.

I think I wasn't really clear - what I'd like to know is why applications like this in Linuxland tend to require lots of tlc and fiddling and may still run poorly in comparison to out-of-the box M$ applications.

That's not a value call, I'm simply wanting to know is it a system issue or a technology issue (insofar as the technology was developed by and for Windows and so Linux developers are having to play catch up).

Thanks again.

Gonniff
 
Old 09-15-2003, 07:42 AM   #4
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just curious... have you tried using the mplayer rpms? nothing against compiling source code, but perhaps the binaries might give you better results this time... it doesn't hurt to try, you can always remove the rpm if it still sucks... but then it's probably time to check your video setup... something's probably not optimized in there...

http://www.rpmfind.net/

i'm using mplayer on red hat and mandrake from the command line with no problems... i have a ATI Radeon 7000 64MB SDR... it all runs as nice as winxp... the only thing i noticed is it runs a teeny little bit crisper on red hat than on mandrake... but it could be my imaginaton...
 
Old 09-15-2003, 08:22 AM   #5
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win32sux,

Yeah, I tried an rpm when I first tried using mplayer weeks ago and it was one of those "laurel and hardy" scenarios: won't work because this thing or that isn't installed. So I install "this 'n' that" and it just popped up new errors about other things that weren't installed.

When I compiled from source, it ran right off the bat (although I just tried to recompile with gui support, but it won't run the gui - complains that I have no skins, but I've unpacked the xine-like skin tar to ~/.mplayer/Skin, so am pulling that off and going back to the command line).

I'm not unhappy with it - not at all! - I think it's great. It's just a little bit peeving when I can slap a DVD in an XP proggie and get all manner of subtitles, menus, etc as well as a really crisp, super response, but under SuSE with mplayer it's that little bit "not as nice".

I'm sure it's my lack of knowledge - without question - but it was really just a general question for all applications between Linuxland and M$ circles.

Thanks for your replies to you both.
 
Old 09-15-2003, 09:09 AM   #6
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Not sure why you had to compile twice. Mplayer worked fine from me and that was not the latest version either. You DID download the win32 codecs, didn't you?

svar
 
Old 09-15-2003, 10:37 AM   #7
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yeah it's true that getting things to work in linux is way more tedious than in win32... like they say, freedom isn't free... what makes linux good is the way it works after you've gotten it set-up properly... i think the fact that it's a bitch to set most things up on it will change in the near future... i mean, considering that we now have distros like slackware-live and knoppix that don't even require installation, it's not far fetched to say that in the near future gnu/linux might even become EASIER than windows...

it's so cool to be able to take a cd and boot it and have a complete working distro up in less than 60 seconds... WITH MPLAYER AND ALL.

http://slackware-live.org/

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/

okay, i went off topic there for a second...

what happened to you while installing the rpms for mplayer is a quite popular phenomenon... it's called "DEPENDANCY HELL"...

there are ways people have come up with to stop making every package installation a dependancy nightmare... debian's apt system is probably the best example...

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ap.../index.en.html

it was originally made for the debian linux distro, but because of it's open source nature, it's made it out into other distros... you can install an apt system made for rpm distros...

http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/

of course apt isn't the only treatment for dependancy insanity, there's others... the folks at mandrake, for example, put one together for their distro called urpmi... it's quite effective.. i mean, it makes installing something like mplayer as easy as:

urpmi mplayer

that's it! it's installed! really... it conected to your source ftp servers, downloaded your package (you didn't even have to download an rpm) and all the dependancy rpms and installed everything in order... like magic. okay, perhaps it DID ask you to confirm that you wanted to install the needed dependancies (common courtesy which can be bypassed), put you get the point...

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/cooker/urpmi.html

the whole purpose of the mandrake distro is to make linux easier for "regular joe" without sacrificing too much if any... urpmi playes a great part in the whole thing...

but of course apt is way more mature and prefered by the pros...

just for the sake of it, here's an extract from the apt intro:

"In the beginning there was the .tar.gz. Users had to compile each program that they wanted to use on their GNU/Linux systems. When Debian was created, it was deemed necessary that the system include a method of managing the packages installed on the machine. The name dpkg was given to this system. Thus the famous `package' first came into being on GNU/Linux, a while before Red Hat decided to create their own `rpm' system. A new dilemma quickly took hold of the minds of the makers of GNU/Linux. They needed a rapid, practical, and efficient way to install packages that would manage dependencies automatically and take care of their configuration files while upgrading. Here again, Debian led the way and gave birth to APT, the Advanced Packaging Tool, which has since been ported by Conectiva for use with rpm and has been adopted by some other distributions."

the codecs svar speaks of are here:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/~alex/codecs/index.html

take care, and of course you DID download the ibm linux commercial for viewing on your mplayer, right?

=)

http://www.deepfog.net/ibm/prodigy90_med.mpg
 
Old 09-19-2003, 02:02 AM   #8
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svar/win32sux,

Thanks so very much for your help. I really appreciate the background and help you have given.

It's nice to know there are folks out there ready to given of their knowledge. Not at all like irc

Thanks again.
 
  


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