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04-10-2005, 12:36 PM
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Games and Linux
Ok, I am not such a newbie. So I do know Linux Gaming is possible, and quiet enjoyable. However the exeprience I have is basically limited to Diablo II (local), Half Life (1) and that kind of OLD games.
Today I had a problem with my windows and decided to fianlly go back to Linux once and for all. I am about to install Mandrake 10 and was wondering if anyone here was able to get WH40K Dawn of War, Diablo II (battle.net), Descent, Neverwinter Nights (plus expansions) working under Linux.
Not that it will stop me from goinbg to linux... but perhaps some sucess stories will keep me from installing windows EVER again.
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Thanx
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04-10-2005, 12:42 PM
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Location: Kent, England
Distribution: Debian Testing
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04-10-2005, 12:43 PM
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Location: the Netherlands
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Neverwinter nights has binaries. You'll need the normal keys. You can download them from the nwn site.
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04-10-2005, 12:53 PM
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Search for 'Cedega' on www.torrentspy.com 
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04-10-2005, 12:55 PM
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Better than obtaining an illegal copy, if you don't want to pay the $5 to download it, get the CVS version. Or try to install using Wine.
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04-10-2005, 01:05 PM
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You can play diablo II and frozen throne under Linux with the use of cedega, but there are problems--as there are with every windows game being run under linux.
Linux is a good gaming platform if you can get a game that runs in opengl mode as linux supports opengl natively and does not support directx natively. When you have to translate into directx mode under linux it will slow the games down. When you can run the games natively under opengl (as you can with diablo II and warcraft 3--as well as world of warcraft) you gain performance boosts. One issue I know of that is annoying related to this is that if you run Diablo II under OpenGL the background (the terrain that you move across) gains a tiled look and is disappointing. You have to run it in DirectX to get rid of it.
Almost all Windows based games run noticeably slower under linux. Sometimes that is only minor, yet other times it is very disappointing performance.
I don't know of War Hammer runs. I've only read about it. Transgaming has to specifically code for many games to make them work under linux. WH is a newer game so they may not have it, may have it but with limited play on limited configurations or it may be full blow.
I know that Doom3, UT2003/UT2004, Quake III, ET, and Neverwinter nights have clients that run under Linux without using cedega. I know there are several others. I believe I've seen Far Cry run under linux too but with extremely limited peformance (but that was a long time ago).
As you know linux program installatino is the one thing that is harming global widespread acceptance of linux on the desktop and in business. If the linux community could solve that one problem we'd have a world of linux that you would never have to worry about the need to go back to windows. Without it linux is doomed to emulating windows programs for the forseeable future.
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04-10-2005, 01:05 PM
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: United States
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Nice collection. How much money do you have? :-P
--Abid Kazmi
PS: I never got my HDD working and I never buried it =D
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04-10-2005, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo99
As you know linux program installatino is the one thing that is harming global widespread acceptance of linux on the desktop and in business. If the linux community could solve that one problem we'd have a world of linux that you would never have to worry about the need to go back to windows. Without it linux is doomed to emulating windows programs for the forseeable future.
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I disagree. People know how to install programs under Windows because they've done it many times before. When things go wrong under M$ware then it's likely to be fatal - just google for 'MOHAA uninstall' to see what I mean. In time people will learn the 'nix way in school as well as the M$ way.
The whole aptget thing seems pretty simplesimon to me but then i still prefer to compile form source
I have Return To Castle Wolfenstein, Doom3 & NeverWinter Nights running fine as native applications.
Under Cedega i have the whole MOHAA series, Call of Duty & CoDUO (although a recent PB update has mucked up MP for a while) and BF1942 (whole series). These all run just fine with no crashes or problems apart from MOHAA not recognising the scroll function in my mouse. Even Operation Flashpoint runs but with terrible graphics...really must work on that some more.
Last edited by otchie1; 04-10-2005 at 04:43 PM.
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04-10-2005, 08:53 PM
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Disagree all you want. Try to justify it all you want, but the facts remain. Linux program installation suck the big witches ti**y. It is horrendous and it is killing the acceptance of linux on the desktop, period!
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04-11-2005, 02:28 AM
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Registered: Jul 2004
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I agree, Jimbo99 - but only partially.
Trying to install opensource-apps without a decent Internet conection is a PITA.
However, I have found that commercial apps - like all games I bought for Linux - installs just fine. I have installed them once to /dev/hda8 which is mounted under /usr/local. Any distro can run them without any reinstalling, as son as I mount /usr/local.
But winex... well, Sims work but that was not easy.
My point of view is: If you want games, buy Linux-versions. Yes, you'll be restricted, but sometimes you have to make a choice.
And if you have a decent Internet-connection, forget Mandrake. It doesn't have good enough repositories. Urpmi is best handling CD's, apt is best for Internet-installation.
Try some Debian-variants, like Mepis, Munjoy, Ubuntu... Not the easiest distro's, some hardware-config trouble - but really big repositories!
Or try Fedora, LormaLinux, BLAG... Somewhat easier to manage, excellent hardware-support - but not as big repositories as Debian. Yum (the default for Fedora) has no GUI, install apt4rpm and synaptic so you can browse the repo's.
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05-10-2005, 12:57 PM
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Ok... don't want to use cedega. I'd rather use a free software. I will try the cvs version, although I don't really like aladdino (sp?) license...
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