front page replacement?
 

Anyone have an idea of where I can get something to replace my front page, but still make use of the server extensions or similar? I'm looking to stop using Windows forever.

Screem is a nice website dev tool. It has link tracking, syntax hilighting, etc. , but dosen't have front page server extensions. I seriously doubt any tool besides Front Page will have access to these through the ide. If you really need them, check out wine or crossover office and run front page on linux.

OK, I appreciate your info, but I have a question

What is wine and crossover office, and what is the relation to front page? Sorry for my ignorance.

http://www.winehq.com/
http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products/
They are applications that allow you to run windows software in the Linux envrionment. Lots of people swear by them.

are we talking about running a setup file, or typing strings into a command line? Is it a user friendly process, or can I pretty much expect a headache or two? I'd really love to use whine or the other one but I just want to know what to expect.

Gracias

Try http://www.nvu.com. It looks promising.

Crossover Office has a graphical setup which will work in most situations, and it adds appropriate menu items to gnome/KDE. it's really no more difficult than using native linux applications.

Why do you need support for the frontpage extensions? If you want to stop using windows forever, then stop using Gates' proprietary protocols as well. Bite the hand that bleeds you!

Oooh! That felt good. I'm much calmer, now.

Try Screem, Bluefish, or even Mozilla Composer. Personally, I find Bluefish to be the best, but they're all great Open Source web development tools.

Enjoy!
--- Cerbere

OK
1. To frozen: I'm not paying for any apps, so anything like that is out of the question. If NVU is free, I might try it later. Thank you.

2. to mikshaw: When you say a graphical setup do you mean I can download one file, click it twice and hit next until it's installed just like in Windows? Or do I have to undo the tarball and run rpm and all that jargon everyone on here is so fond of. And once it's installed is it as simple as going to the applications menu and choosing to run it? I'm sorry for my critical nature but unless the app is as easy to install in Linux as any app in Windows then I'm not messing with it. Bill Gates might be a punk, but if I have to go through some crap only a guru would understand then forget it. Thank you as well.

3. Cerber: I don't care what the program is called or the method. I just want to be able to change up my site locally and then publish from the same program using one button...like the familiar "publish web" command in Front Page. So, once again, the maker of the OS is irrelevant. I'm looking for convenience, I'm not revolting or anything like that. It's not a matter of principle, just a matter of my wallet.

Thank you all.

1. Crossover Office and WineX both require a small payment, so they may be out of the question....Frontpage or Dreamweaver may install with Wine, but I couldn't say for sure.

2. IF you have Crossover installed (sh whatevertheinstalleriscalled.sh), it's very similar to what you've been used to....except instead of double-clicking the Frontpage installer, you click the Crossover Office setup icon (or menu item) and follow its instructions....it's all GUI from there.

3. You might check out Quanta...it's a what-you-see app like frontpage, and may have (though I'm not certain) an upload utility.

I downloaded the crossover trial, and so far it is exactly what I'm looking for. I'm gonna have to pay for it in a month. Thanks for your help gentlemen. Now, does anyone know how I can get Slack to recognize my sony Handy cam when I connect it via USB? I'd like to import the images, edit them using photoshop or something similar, and post em.

I guess I just need a way to access my DVcamcorder as a removable drive connected via USB ( or 1394 if possible ). I'm gonna go look for some photo editing software. Anyone know of any?

Thank you fellas

http://www.gphoto.org/

This is worth a look.

Frontpage is a smack in the face of the
web publishing standards commity. Everyone
who not only uses but publicly advocates
it should be shot with XP CD's accelerated
to Mach2 ... it's like having a dump in the
mall because the toilet is 100m away.


Cheers,
Tink

Amen!

Tink,

I'm up for a change but I need the exact same capabilities. Point me to the right place...

Thanks.

You won't find that. Something that will allow you
to upload wesites from within your "development
environment" is for instance amaya ... go to
http://www.w3c.org and there should be a link
to it on the first page. It will use HTTP Push
rather than any frontpage specific protocols.

And I'll have a look into your Camcorder
problem now :) ... hope I can find SOMETHING ;)

[edit]What model is it?[/edit]


Cheers,
Tink

Sony DCRTRV-22

Thanks, man.
I'll check out amaya.

As for the digicam ... it seems to be supported by
the kernel(s). You should be able to use it as a
removable disk, I don't know about the firewire...

You'll need to create a mountpoint for it... I'd
recommend to get usb manager for
ease of use and convenience, it will make
mounting the thing a breeze.

As editor I can recommend the gimp. It's a bit
different from how Photoshop or others work,
but once you get the hang of it it's unbeatable.

If you want to do batch-conversions you can
easily use the command line tools from the
image-magick suite.
man convert
for details... yes, you have to use command-line,
but you can convert/rescale all pics by the same
standard within seconds ;) Beat that!


Cheers,
Tink

Man, amaya doesn't support slackware . What's up with that.

Certainly NVU is free. The source code is provided for free to anyone. It's open source, based off of the mozilla composer. It's not out yet, but, as I said, it looks promising.

What do you mean by doesn't support?
I just compiled it with NO problems what
so ever :}


Cheers,
Tink

Once again I've shown my ignorance. I'm used to just downloading and hitting setup.exe or something similar like when installing crossover.

I know this is a bit much but can you tell me how to compile it and make it so i can access it from KDE? I'd know where to get the source code already. I just need to know how to compile and use.

Thank you so much.

Little steps :}

1. Download package.
2. cd /usr/src
3. tar xvzf /<path-to-package>/amaya-src-8.2.tgz
4. cd Amaya
5. mkdir obj
6. cd obj
7. ../configure
8. make
9. make install (or, if you have that tool, use checkinstall.
makes uninstalling easier)
10. right-click the K-Button
11. select menu-editor from the pop-up
12. select the category you want amaya to live in
13. click New Item
14. give it a name, e.g. Amaya
15. in the command-entry field put /usr/local/bin/amaya
16. click apply

That's it :)

Thank you so much.

1. Where should i save when i download the source?

2. Is all of this done in KDE or at the command prompt? Or can i do it from the console within KDE?

3. In step 7 what precedes ..../configure? Is it where I saved it when I downloaded.


Thanks

Where-ever you want to, really ... your home,
/tmp, ...

Well, a console within KDE will be fine.

Just use two literal periods. That's linux' (unix') way to
tell bash to execute the command that follows the slash
from the parent directory.

./<command> = run from local directory
../<command> = run from next higher level directory
and yes, you guessed it,
../../<command> = run command from two levels up the directory tree

If I use actual placeholders in descriptions I'll enclose them
in <>

Cheers,
Tink

You're the man, I'll let you know if it works when I get home. Thanks

One more thing...with the USB Manager...do I have to compile it the same way or do I just download an installer, and double click in KDE? Are the steps the same as amaya?

Thanks again

I haven't seen a Slack-pack on the homepage,
but there might be one on http://www.linuxpackages.net

If there isn't, you'll have to compile it from source
(which isn't too hard, either, but different from amaya).
Once it's (compiled and) installed, give's a yell and
I can talk you through the setup.

Btw, if you're going to end up compiling a few more
packages from source I'd really recommend getting
http://checkinstall.izto.org/files/s...tall-1.5.3.tgz
and using this as the last step of your compiling...

make && checkinstall

That way unistalling is a breeze
(removepkg /var/log/packages/<packagename>),
and if you have more than one machine you can install
it from the same slack-pack :)

Cheers,
Tink

Before I go off and try this usbmgr thingie, I'd like to make sure it does not work as of right now. When I plug my Camera in to the USB port is there any way to just type mount (something) and check if it wlill mount. Or should the OS immediately recognize upon plugging in, in which case i know it doesn't work.

Thanks.

I say that because my USB mouse works just fine, but it might be a completely different thing altogether. If so , pardon my ignorance.

Chances are that the cam gets assigned /dev/sda...
Now I don't know how the thing is partitioned and
which filesystem it might use....

try
mkdir /cam
mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /cam -o user,users,umask=000

If that fails, try a different sdaX ...

If the line works, put an eqivalent entry into
/etc/fstab
/dev/sdaX /cam auto noauto,user,users,umask=000,rw 0 0



Cheers,
Tink

Hey Tinkster,

Thank you so much. I did everything you said to install Amaya and it went very well. However, when I go to run the program from the icon nothing happens. I even rebooted to see if it helped. So close! I went to /usr/local/bin and there was nothing there. What 's up?

Man, my computer is going suuuper slow, as a matter of fact I'm typing and the cursor has not yet caught up...lol. Is there any way to check the swap space and make sure it's active and all that, and make sure I'm using it, cause it doesn't seem so. Thanks.

I think that Tink forgot to mention that you need to su to root before you type "make install."

try doing make install as root, and see what happens.

Thanks Elvis for pointing that out :}

I had indeed forgotten that bit.

top is always a good starting point to see
where the CPU is spending its time....

free will tell you too what your memory
and swap space usage is.


Cheers,
Tink

So what about the amaya. i did everything you said but when i choose to run amaya it doesn't do anything. I WAS logged in as root when i did all that. As a matter of fact I haven't even set up any users yet, just root. And ideas? Maybe I should enter a different path in the command-entry field when i'm in the menu editor. This is proving to be frustrating. Help!

Thank you.

I suggest the following
updatedb -c
locate amaya | grep \/bin

and see where it went ...

Which method of installation did you
choose, btw, "make install" or checkinstall?

One thing would be to try
make install | tee install.log
and check what's actually going on there...


Cheers,
Tink

Tinkster,

Thanks. I'll try it when I get home. BTW, I used "make install". Man, I hope this works. When I find out where it is , how will i know what path to enter in the command-entry field of menu editor? Thanks so much.

Me too ... I hate to give people wrong advice :}

I'll tell you once I see the output of the locate statement :}

And if it comes back empty please post the contents
of /usr/src/Amaya/obj/install.log you created with tee.


Cheers,
Tink

thanks, Tinkster. You're a HUGE help. I'll follow up soon.

Well, yes, I could do with a bit more exercise
and bit less food, but why did you have to bring
that up here? :D



Cheers,
Tink

Im just dreading the day you give up on me and i end up with a half broken linux

I'm still curious as to how I can make sure my swap is activated and if not how to activate it.

Scroll up mate :}

Both top and free will tell you whether you have swap space or not :}
Or a
swapon -s

I recommend familiarising yourself with the man
command, really ... if you did
man -k swap
you'd get a lot of info, if it's too much, narrow it down
with grep ... like in
man -k swap | grep [18]
(grep [18] will only return manpages that have to
do with executables)


Cheers,
Tink

Tinkster,

1. When I type updatedb -c it goes to a new line, so I assume that's ok

2. When I try locate amaya|grep \/bin I get:
"/usr/src/Amaya/amaya/bindent1.bmp
/usr/src/Amaya/amaya/bindent2.bmp"

3. When I type make install|tee install.log I get:
"Nothing to be done for install" (note that I type this command in whatever directory I'm in whenever I open the console so I didn't go anywhere special to do it)

Now what?

Thanks again.

I also typed "top" and got a line that looked like this

"Swap 0K total 0K used"

I assume this means I didn't activate the swap space. Do you know how I can activate it. The partition exists for sure. Can I just put in the installation CD again or would that screw things up? Thanks.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by abiagi
1. When I type updatedb -c it goes to a new line, so I assume that's ok
[quote]
Yep ... unix/linux commands often only give output if
something goes wrong (except for the ones that are
meant to be talking, like grep, top, free, and such :})

Valid, but not what we wanted. :}

Go back to
cd /usr/src/Amaya/obj
and type the
make install|tee install.log
there ...


Cheers,
Tink

mkswap /dev/hdXY (X=a,b,c where ever the partition lives, Y=1,2,3,4... it's number)
If it is listed in /etc/fstab
swapon -a
will activate it.

With
swapon /dev/hdXY
you can set it active explicitly.

man mkswap
man swapon
for details...



Cheers,
Tink

OK I did that, it did a bunch of stuff, and then I tried amaya again, and it still wouldn't start. Now what?

Look at the logfile .... run updatedb again.


Cheers,
Tink

OK
I typed updatedb -c and it took like 2 min and newline

i went to /usr/src/Amaya/obj and typed make install|tee install.log

and it did some stuff

then I went to /root and typed updatedb -c again

Amaya still doesn't work

Now what?

Thank you