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Old 04-17-2017, 01:08 PM   #1
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Free, GNU, alternative to proprietary source Skype ?


Hello,

Skype is pretty well known by everyone. In spite of Skype availability for Linux, would you eventually know an alternative to closed source Skype ?

There would be this one, but it is likely in the future not going to be long there, since Skype is most known.

https://jitsi.org/

Any ideas and experience would help on this topic.
 
Old 04-18-2017, 12:40 PM   #2
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Hello,

Skype is pretty well known by everyone. In spite of Skype availability for Linux, would you eventually know an alternative to closed source Skype ?

There would be this one, but it is likely in the future not going to be long there, since Skype is most known.

https://jitsi.org/

Any ideas and experience would help on this topic.
I prefer Discord, but other options include TOX, SLACK (the newer version include voice), Mumble, Signal, VIBER, Teamspeak, and Wire. I am sure that there are many others.

Since Discord and Mumble are designed to pair with games for online gaming they are very small, fast, and resource efficient so as not to slow the games down. This makes them uniquely valuable to someone like me.

Several of the XMMP clients now support voice, and group calling within the application. I cannot attest to the soound quality or lag time, but I read reports that it works. Hangouts (Google/Chrome) also has application here, but Google can change the features, split the project, or drop it entirely at will. (Something I consider the ONLY shortcoming to using Google app.)

Skype belongs to Microsoft, they are the OPPOSITE of open, and anything for Linux is an afterthought and often poorly done. (As opposed to Windows, Office, and Exchange, which are often well and elegantly done: for Microsoft though, perhaps not as well for the user.) I would expect a popular Open Source project to live longer and be more stable on Linux than skype.

Best of luck, and please: let us know what you try and about your experience! (And any problems, of course.)

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Old 04-28-2017, 06:46 AM   #3
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TOX is not into the repository of Debian nor DEVUAN.

RING is neither into it as well. https://www.linux.com/learn/why-and-...ad-skype-linux

WOuld you know a possible alternative that would be simple, and straightforward, supported on most distros ?
 
Old 04-28-2017, 06:47 AM   #4
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TOX is not into the repository of Debian nor DEVUAN.

RING is neither into it as well. https://www.linux.com/learn/why-and-...ad-skype-linux

WOuld you know a possible alternative that would be simple, and straightforward, supported on most distros ?
 
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TOX is not into the repository of Debian nor DEVUAN.

RING is neither into it as well. https://www.linux.com/learn/why-and-...ad-skype-linux

WOuld you know a possible alternative that would be simple, and straightforward, supported on most distros ?
 
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TOX is not into the repository of Debian nor DEVUAN.

RING is neither into it as well. https://www.linux.com/learn/why-and-...ad-skype-linux

WOuld you know a possible alternative that would be simple, and straightforward, supported on most distros ?
Stutter much?

Your repo should have Mumble, Twinkle, and sflphone.
You can learn about installing discord at https://discordapp.com
You can download and install RING from https://ring.cx
You can download TOX from https://tox.chat

I hope that helps^3.
 
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Blink is another SIP client. Though I'm mostly using Jisti these days. Once you upgrade to SIP you have your choice of clients since they all can connect to each other.
 
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Old 04-28-2017, 01:47 PM   #8
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Stutter much?

Your repo should have Mumble, Twinkle, and sflphone.
You can learn about installing discord at https://discordapp.com
You can download and install RING from https://ring.cx
You can download TOX from https://tox.chat

I hope that helps^3.
I would be pleased that it would be easy to install for my friends, running Fedora, Ubuntu and Slackware. I couldn't find much way which is easy to install out of the box, without complicated installation (not for me )

burk python.

Code:
 ratul# apt-get install blink -f
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 blink : Depends: libvncclient0 (>= 0.9.9) but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-application (>= 2.0.0) but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-cjson but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-enum34 but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-eventlib but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-googleapi (>= 1.5.0) but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-lxml but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-oauth2client but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-pyqt5 but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-pyqt5.qtsvg but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-pyqt5.qtwebkit but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-sipsimple (>= 3.1.0) but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-twisted-core but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: python-zope.interface but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: x11vnc but it is not going to be installed
Code:
apt-cache search twinkle
xeratul@linux:~$
Libre/free opensource software would be great.

I don't run non-free applications. Sorry, this is a principle against non free, proprietary, softwares.

I won't. I can't run non-free softwares. I can't do that. no way.

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Old 04-28-2017, 02:49 PM   #9
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Did you add the appropriate repositories?
 
Old 04-28-2017, 03:20 PM   #10
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sources.list looks like this
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deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main 
deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main



deb    http://ag-projects.com/debian stable main
 
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deb http://ag-projects.com/debian stable main
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Ok. That's correct.

For Devuan jessie, I think you'll also need a few packages from backports:

Code:
deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports main contrib 
deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports main contrib
Edit: if you do add backports, make sure to double check that they are pinned properly so they won't run amok:

/etc/apt/preferences.d/00backports:
Pin: release a=jessie-backports
Pin-Priority: 100

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