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Old 07-10-2004, 05:21 PM   #16
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STILL floppy write prob!


For those of you with saintly patience...

I've been having a problem with writing to floppy - done many posts on it. Search on my username for gory details...

Briefly, I could previously mount a floppy BUT only in read-only mode. Both before now, and now as well, the mcopy tools work to an unmounted floppy. So I know the drive and the disk are good.

After trying a myriad of theings, I got fed up, and reloaded the whole darn 'puter from scratch. Slackware and the full Slack pack. Not Gnome 2.6 yet, as I wanted to see what 2.4 did.

Now when I try and mount a floppy, I'm asked for the file system type. I'm using a Widows formatted disk, so I should be able to use the command that a user gave me:

mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

Except it doesn't work. However, the reload fixed some other problems I was having with Mozilla.

I thought the syntax was:
mount [-t for filesystype] [filesystype] [something] [somewhere] - what am I missing?

I've tried -t vfat, and -t umsdos - both give the same errormessage:
'wrong fs type. bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fdo, or too many mounted filesystems' Previously, the floppy was recognized as umsdos.

Running mount by itself gives:
/dev/hda2 on / type reiserfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)

Other info - my fstab file is:
/dev/hda2 / reiserfs defaults 1 1
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,owner,ro 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0

I AM root on the system, so the 'owner' should be OK.

My mtab file is:
/dev/hda2 / reiserfs rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0

Are any of you folks NYC (Manhattan) based? Care to make a house call for a negotiable fee?

Slackware runs so nice when you get it right - but this is driving me close to postal...

Last edited by jhecht; 07-10-2004 at 05:41 PM.
 
Old 07-10-2004, 05:43 PM   #17
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You might hate this, but have you checked the floppy settings in your BIOS? (I have an option that makes my floppy read-only....)
 
Old 07-10-2004, 05:44 PM   #18
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Are you sure the floppy is good? I get errors that look like that sometimes, when I try to mount corrupted CDs.
 
Old 07-10-2004, 05:52 PM   #19
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Yes, the floppy is good. I formatted and tested in on my Windows (second, different) 'puter. It copied and erased.

Also, I can mcopy a file to it in Linux that the Win 'puter sees on the disk.

I just checked the BIOS, yes there is a R/W option - but it's set properly to R/W. Further, I can mcopy - which I don't think I could do if it was read only.

Try again? Free beer (many free beers) to the winner!
 
Old 07-10-2004, 06:43 PM   #20
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Please see my latest post for the most recent developments.
Do a search on my name to get it - jhecht

I wound up re-formatting and re-installing the whole Slack pack - which changed my problem, but didn't fix it. (sob)
 
Old 07-10-2004, 11:58 PM   #21
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Why have you started so many threads with the same question? Wouldn't it be better to keep the discussion in one thread? That way people who do the right thing and search for the answer don't have to sort through (at least) three different threads? That's why double-posting is against the rules.

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http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=201685

Enjoy!
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Old 07-11-2004, 06:37 AM   #22
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C>Why have you started so many threads with the same question?

Because it seems that after awhile people assume that the problem has been solved and stop posting to a thread, whether it has been resolved or not.

This seems especially true of a long thread with a dozen or so replies. And I still have the same issue - not being able to write to a floppy - which is a pretty basic function...

If you are a moderator, by all means delete the earlier threads, as they are no longer useful in trying to solve my ongoing problem.

Last edited by jhecht; 07-11-2004 at 06:40 AM.
 
Old 07-11-2004, 07:21 AM   #23
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Quote:
Originally posted by jhecht
C>Why have you started so many threads with the same question?

Because it seems that after awhile people assume that the problem has been solved and stop posting to a thread, whether it has been resolved or not.

This seems especially true of a long thread with a dozen or so replies. And I still have the same issue - not being able to write to a floppy - which is a pretty basic function...

If you are a moderator, by all means delete the earlier threads, as they are no longer useful in trying to solve my ongoing problem.
If I were a moderator, it would say 'Moderator' under my nick, not 'Member'.

Your response of 'because I really want an answer, and no one has given me one yet' doesn't justify breaking the rules.

Threads aren't deleted in this forum, because they may provide info for someone. However, your other threads are not only no longer useful to you, they are now less than useless to others who may have the same problem. When people try to search for an answer, your dead threads just clutter up their search results.

Enjoy!
--- Cerbere
 
Old 07-11-2004, 09:59 AM   #24
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Strange problem dude.
I have a Slack 9.1 machine and I mount a floppy
with simply:

mount /dev/fd0

Your fstab is correct, are you using the default 2.4.22 kernel?
 
Old 07-11-2004, 12:40 PM   #25
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A>Strange problem dude.
Yeah, bigtime!

A>I have a Slack 9.1 machine and I mount a floppy with simply:
A>mount /dev/fd0
I can do that too, but READ ONLY (sigh). Further, after reloading Slackware completely, I got the errormessage that I needed to 'specify a filesystem type'. I tried many variants on 'mount -t etc.' to specify either umsdos or vfat - none worked. I was not able to even mount a floppy.

After I manually put back the following mtab line:
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy umsdos rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0
I was then able to mount a floppy in read-only mode - back where I started, after many hours of work.

A>Your fstab is correct, are you using the default 2.4.22 kernel?
Yes, it is the stock distro. I am too newbie to compile kernals yet.

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Old 07-11-2004, 02:32 PM   #26
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Did you install the package "floppy" from the "a" series?
It contains fdutils and mtools.
 
Old 07-11-2004, 03:51 PM   #27
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I think I mentioned a couple of times earlier in the post that I could use the mcopy tools. Sorry I didn't make it clearer.
JH>Both before now, and now as well, the mcopy tools work to an unmounted floppy. So I know the drive and the disk are good.

Also:
JH>...I got fed up, and reloaded the whole darn 'puter from scratch. Slackware and the full Slack pack...

And the mcopy command would only work if the (A) package was loaded, right?

Further, I did a 'full' install, which was the default. The only thing omitted was the foreign language support for Kdesk - which is the default as well.

Since I only speak English, and don't like Kdesk, I left the default - which was to load ALL other packages.

Try again? Free beer (a CASE of beer!) to the winner who helps me fix this!!!

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Old 07-11-2004, 07:37 PM   #28
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Try :

mount -o rw /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/ -t vfat

(also -t umsdos)

Though I can't see why you would need to pass anything to
mount to get rw as it should just work out of the box.

Last edited by auditek747; 07-11-2004 at 08:06 PM.
 
Old 07-11-2004, 11:59 PM   #29
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A>Try :

mount -o rw /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/ -t vfat

Jeez, it freakin' WORKS!

How do i make it permanent?


Further:

A tech (JD) who's been helping me, said to check the config file in /boot

I checked the config file in /boot and the line IS:
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y

I can consistantly mount/copy if I enter:
mount -o rw /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/ -t vfat

JD>You can load it on bootup by uncommenting the /sbin/modprobe vfat line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules.

Did that - didn't work. I must do the commandline entry:
mount -o rw /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/ -t vfat
to copy files to the floppy in the GUI.

Can I make the command permanent by modifying fstab or mtab?

The current fstab line is:
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0

The current mtab line (when the floppy is mounted) is:
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat rw 0 0

If I can make this permanent at boot, I'll be happy as a pig in, uh, clover! (grin)

Last edited by jhecht; 07-12-2004 at 08:30 AM.
 
Old 07-12-2004, 10:38 AM   #30
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I'll tell you what, I just can't see why you need to pass
all this stuff to mount.
"-o rw" tells mount to make the thing read/write but it's
supposed to do that by default.
The other args should be unnecessary as well.
Try :

mount -o rw /dev/fd0

If that works we're narrowing it down.

Also put your rc.modules back the way it was.
According to your /boot/config, vfat is built into
the kernel, which is default for Slack.

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