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Old 05-12-2005, 08:16 AM   #1
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Firefox won't browse


I am running SuSE 9.2. I have it set up (ethernet) with a DSL connection through a Linksys router/access point which is connected to the modem. Konqueror works fine. I installed Firefox from the SuSE installation DVD and it opens but does not seem to be able to connect to the internet. I had also installed Mozilla. I read somewhere that there could be issues with running them both so I removed them both and then re installed Firefox. It still doesn't work. BTW, Mozilla didn't work either. Any ideas?
 
Old 05-12-2005, 08:30 AM   #2
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try again with your firewall switched off - how about the router firewall?
Most common reason unable to browse is no permissions in firewall.
Of course you tried this...
 
Old 05-12-2005, 05:53 PM   #3
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try again with your firewall switched off - how about the router firewall?
Most common reason unable to browse is no permissions in firewall.
Of course you tried this...
I turned off the SuSE firewall. Firefox still doesn't work. I never set up a firewall for the Linksys router so that shouldn't be an issue. I am sure there is a setting somewhere that needs to be changed but I have no idea what. The Yast Online Update also seems to be blocked.
 
Old 05-12-2005, 06:08 PM   #4
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try running firefox from a terminal to see if there aren't any error messages.
 
Old 05-12-2005, 06:49 PM   #5
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Originally posted by mrcheeks
try running firefox from a terminal to see if there aren't any error messages.
It opens fine from a terminal, no error messages. What is really strange is that it WILL open some of the sites that SuSE stuck in the Bookmarks. But when I try to link to stuff from there it quits working.

Too bad, Firefox is a really cool browser and I like it a lot better than Konqueror.
 
Old 05-12-2005, 07:08 PM   #6
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If both Firefox and Konqueror don't connect to the Internet it's probably a router issue. Did you try to ping anything:

# ping www.yahoo.com

If ping is not working try connecting your linux NIC direct to the modem then restart network services.

#ifdown eth0
unplug from the router direct to modem
#ifup eth0

That should restart but if not:

# etc/init.d/./network restart

Good Luck

KC
 
Old 05-12-2005, 07:45 PM   #7
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it might be a suse problem. Most of us use the big mozilla or firefox and it works just fine...
 
Old 05-12-2005, 08:33 PM   #8
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If both Firefox and Konqueror don't connect to the Internet it's probably a router issue. Did you try to ping anything:
KC
Konqueror works fine. The problem is just with Mozilla and Firefox. At first I had both of them installed and thought maybe there were conflicts between them, after all Firefox IS Mozilla stripped down. I removed them both and then installed just Firefox, but still no luck on getting it working. It could still be a router issue of some kind, I just am not computer savvy enough to know what.
 
Old 05-12-2005, 08:38 PM   #9
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it might be a suse problem. Most of us use the big mozilla or firefox and it works just fine...
Yes, I am using them both on other computers and they are nice browsers. I just installed Firefox recently on a box with Windows 2000 and I like it a lot, even more than my old favorite and standby Mozilla.

Thanks to all for the replies. This forum is great. Dummies like me wouldn't have a chance at making linux work without people like y'all.
 
Old 05-13-2005, 06:53 AM   #10
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kenkaz suggested you try to ping yahoo.com ... did you try? What happened?

You say:
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The Yast Online Update also seems to be blocked.
Do you mean that a webpage for yast that you access via firefox is blocked or that the yast utility cannot access the internet either?

Do you have any browser on that machine which works? (The usual assumption is that you're posting this stuff from window$...)

Usually when more than one connection thingee fails it points to router problems or something like that - not the software. The ping result should be a clue...
 
Old 05-13-2005, 08:13 AM   #11
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kenkaz suggested you try to ping yahoo.com ... did you try? What happened?

You say:
Do you mean that a webpage for yast that you access via firefox is blocked or that the yast utility cannot access the internet either?

Do you have any browser on that machine which works? (The usual assumption is that you're posting this stuff from window$...)

Usually when more than one connection thingee fails it points to router problems or something like that - not the software. The ping result should be a clue...

Yes, the Konqueror browser works great on that machine, no problems at all. Also, I can boot that same box into Windows 2000 and Firefox works great on that. The problem is with Firefox (and Mozilla) not working with the SuSE 9.2 installation. Something else I have tried is starting SuSE under IceWM and blackbox and some of the other window managers (not gnome, don't have it installed yet) and then tried running Firefox from Ice and Blackbox to see if the problem was just with KDE. Firefox doesn't work under ANY window manager that I have tried so far.

When I say that YaST also seems to be blocked I mean the utility itself does not seem to be able to access the internet..

I made this post from a Winblows machine, but I can post from the computer in question with the SuSE 9.2 OS if I use Konqueror and indeed have made some of these posts from that box. I have to go to work now but will try a few more things after work.
 
Old 05-14-2005, 06:18 AM   #12
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It seems that mozilla, firefox and YaST are shareing something in the way they send and receive packets - which is blocked somewhere in your system. The software itself is unlikely to be at fault.

Next step is usually to eliminate the router from the equation - since that's easy ... plug the eth card direct to the modem and try again.
 
Old 05-14-2005, 08:59 AM   #13
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Hey, I am having the EXACT same problem on my Gentoo box (kernel 2.6.11 r6). Konqueror works fine but Firefox or Mozilla do not. I have installed firefox in the following ways:
emerge mozilla-firefox
emerge mozilla-firefox-bin
DL'ing the firefox installer from Mozilla's site
DL'ing the Mozilla installer from Mozilla's site

I have not emerged Mozilla yet. Also, the machine is a dual boot into windows and there are no problems with Firefox or Mozilla in Windows XP Pro. I have my DSL going to an Actiontec modem which then goes to a Microsoft router. When I get a chance I will plug it directly into my DSL modem to see if that solves the problem.

I also have a Gentoo box (kernel 2.6.11 r6) at work that uses Firefox just fine. The only difference between the make.conf file (I think) is that I used a lot more USE flags on this one at home.

At first I thought my USE flags had adverse side effects but "emerge mozilla-firefox-bin" AND using the install from Mozilla's site should avoid that.

BTW, I don't use YaST so I'm not sure if I would have a problem with it or not.

Wondering if it is a hardware problem. I'll run some RAM tests and post the results.

Last edited by Temujin_12; 05-14-2005 at 02:10 PM.
 
Old 05-14-2005, 12:12 PM   #14
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Memory Test Results

Ran Windows Memory Diagnostic (all 11 tests): No errors
Ran Memtest86+ (v1.51): No errors

NOTE: I only ran each test once. I could run it overnight to see if mutiple pass throughs have any errors.
 
Old 05-16-2005, 01:05 AM   #15
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Ahah! Someone else... that's good, the more data the better. Also, have either of you tried the firefox official mailing lists?
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Temujin_12 said:= When I get a chance I will plug it directly into my DSL modem to see if that solves the problem.

I also have a Gentoo box (kernel 2.6.11 r6) at work that uses Firefox just fine. The only difference between the make.conf file (I think) is that I used a lot more USE flags on this one at home.
Yeah - eliminate the hardware. You're work system is probably not exactly the same... however, the build id also different. If you fiddle much you can break - and sometimes things get cached so errors will remain. The only way of being sure is to follow the build in the makefile and make sure that all directories and files have been removed. This does not always happen automatically.
 
  


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