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Old 02-28-2014, 12:56 PM   #1
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Firefox freezes and takes KDE with it. Large images often at fault


Hello,

im on opensuse 13.1 64 bit. i did a fresh install of opensuse and since then i've had this problem. firefox freezes and kde also freezes, the desktop is completely unresponsive. only happens when im using firefox. ive tried running firefox in safe mode, but it doesnt stop the problem from reaccuring, so i assume that it is not an extension issue. the freeze happens 98% of the time when opening a large photo, but does rarely occur for no apparent reason. the freeze can last from a few seconds to a few minutes.

i havent found any useful error messages yet, but dont really know where i should be looking.

any ideas?

thanks
 
Old 02-28-2014, 04:37 PM   #2
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the freeze happens 98% of the time when opening a large photo,
can you post a link
some people, like me , consider a large photo to be OVER 8 Gig
and a only big image is 1 to 4 gig

and include your system specs

a desktop or laptop
the GPU ( if one ) amd, nvidia,intel
and the ram 2 gig,4 gig or 32 gig

and is this the firefox in the suse repos or the binary tar.gz from the mozilla web site

also
What plugins are installed
as in
is flash installed
and are you using OpenJDK or Oracle's java
 
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Old 02-28-2014, 05:27 PM   #3
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thanks for the reply.

ok,

i dont think the pictures are anywhere near as big as what you consider to be large. maybe not small pictures would be better. this one is not too large but causes the freeze up very consistently, (other images have caused the freeze sometimes and sometimes not) http://i.imgur.com/wbQ1L1D.jpg

i am using firefox from the opensuse repo, but tried the one from mozilla also and there was no change.

desktop with ati radeon hd 4850 card using the opensource radeon driver.
16 gigs of ram

adobe flash plugin is installed
open jdk java
 
Old 02-28-2014, 06:15 PM   #4
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hmmmmmmmmm,

you got me thinking about java. this install is the first time i have used openjdk instead of sun java. so i removed openjkd and installed sun, but still had the same problem. so i unistalled sun java and reinstalled openjdk and icedtea ...

now i dont seem to have any problem!!! i hope that is the end of it.

thanks
 
Old 02-28-2014, 09:08 PM   #5
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if anyone is interested...

no problems until i played some games in firefox that use java applets. no problem with the games, but after playing the games, the freeze with the images came back. then i went to icetea web control panel and increased the size of disk space for storing temp files. freeze is gone again now.

still dont know why java in firefox freezes the whole desktop instead of just firefox, but seems to be resolved.
 
Old 02-28-2014, 09:18 PM   #6
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You might try opening a terminal window and running 'top'. Then open Firefox in another window, less than full-screen, so you can see the 'top' window at the same time. Then use Firefox to open your large images and see if 'top' give you any clues. You can set 'top' to display many different system things - read the man page.

Or you could install 'sar', 'iostat', and 'vmstat' and start up THREE seperate terminal windows and watch their output as you run Firefox. In those other windows you would be running "sar 2 100", "ipstat 2 100", and "vmstat 2 100" or some variations like that (the first number is the number of seconds between reading, the second number is the total number of reading to take). Read the manpages to see what these commands can display for you.
 
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:26 PM   #7
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Have you tested with another browser (Opera, Konqueror?) to verify that the problem is a Firefox thing?

When I opened the picture you linked (http://i.imgur.com/wbQ1L1D.jpg), the Opera properties dialog told me that it was 428 Kb in size. That doesn't sound so large to me. It's large in dimension, but not in depth.
 
Old 02-28-2014, 10:15 PM   #8
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there is no problem with opera.

i will try top and see if i find anything.

thanks.
 
Old 10-29-2014, 10:59 AM   #9
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Update in case anyone is interested.

Xserver was crashing due to using the radeon driver for an ati 4xxx series video card. i had tried to install the legacy fglrx driver, but it does not work with the new xorg version. fglrx was not removed properly and that left kms disabled. fglrx was then removed and kms enabled, and at this point grub was booting with the proper full resolution. however, the freezes would still happen. enabling glamor harware acceleration fixed the freezing problem, but there was some tearing and glitching on a 4350 card. a 4850 card had the exact same freezing behavior. now, with glamor enabled, there is no freezing on it and no tearing or glitching. still have no idea why the freeze only effected firefox.

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