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Old 12-27-2009, 03:28 PM   #1
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Firefox acts wierd with window over it


When I have anothe window above Firefox and scroll, the page gets completely messed up, and this is extremely annoying.

This does not happen in Konqueror.

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Old 12-27-2009, 04:16 PM   #2
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That is strange. Have you tried disabling all your add-ons (if you have any,) and restarting it?
 
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The only add-on I have is AdBlock Plus, I still have the same problem if I disable it.
 
Old 12-27-2009, 05:20 PM   #4
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I believe that his happens when there is not much RAM / video memory... I'm not sure though. I have seen it on both Windows and Linux machines.
 
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My video card is about 2-3 years old, made by HIS, and uses an ATI Radeon HD2600, but I don't know the amount of video memory it has, though. I would guess 512MB, but I really don't know.

I don't know if you are talking about RAM, but either way that couldn't be the problem because I have 6GB and I don't remember using more that 1GB.

Still is there a way to fix it?

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Old 12-27-2009, 08:00 PM   #6
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My video card is about 2-3 years old, made by HIS, and uses an ATI Radeon HD2600, but I don't know the amount of video memory it has, though. I would guess 512MB, but I really don't know.
Is your card capable of 3D acceleration? If so, you could try using a hardware-accelerated window manager (such as Compiz, if you're not already using it). That type of "blit smear" is what you get when the WM (and/or the application) fails to redraw the contents of part of a window that was obstructed by another window, and is usually an artifact of a stacking window manager; at least that's what I've noticed.

Gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong about this (but please go easy on me...I'm not intending to misinform anyone)

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Old 12-28-2009, 12:44 AM   #7
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Adobe Flash is so buggy at times, I wonder if that might have anything to do with your problem, even indirectly.


Edit: Just throwing ideas out there.

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Old 12-28-2009, 07:34 AM   #8
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Is your card capable of 3D acceleration? If so, you could try using a hardware-accelerated window manager (such as Compiz, if you're not already using it). That type of "blit smear" is what you get when the WM (and/or the application) fails to redraw the contents of part of a window that was obstructed by another window, and is usually an artifact of a stacking window manager; at least that's what I've noticed.

Gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong about this (but please go easy on me...I'm not intending to misinform anyone)
Yes, I do have 3D acceleration (Radeon HD 2600, Free X.org "radeon" driver, Mesa).

Is a stacking window manager the type of window manager that lets X itself do the stacking, as opposed to a compositing WM?

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Adobe Flash is so buggy at times, I wonder if that might have anything to do with your problem, even indirectly.
I do not have Flash or any Free substitute of it installed. I would like to, but it is such a pain because Flash is non-free and to watch YouTube Gnash needs non-free parts.

I really wish YouTube could use Ogg Theora and <video> tags...

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Old 12-29-2009, 10:11 AM   #9
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Is a stacking window manager the type of window manager that lets X itself do the stacking, as opposed to a compositing WM?
I'm a little sketchy on the exact details, but AFAIK yes, I think that's what a stacking WM does... What desktop environment are you using? It looks as if you're using KDE, and I think KWin (I think that's what it's called) is *supposedly* a compositor, but it might not be HW accelerated (I have no idea about this; I haven't used KDE much). I'm using GNOME, and I'm not sure if Metacity is a stacker or a compositor, but I do know that if you have a program open that requires a lot of redrawing (such as Firefox), then moving a window around on top of it tends to smear the graphics at least temporarily; depends on the speed of the machine, I guess.

Anyways, enough rambling I think if you can get Compiz to work, that would be great, as then all open windows are rendered into separate buffers in video memory, which *should* alleviate the smearing problem. At this point, I'm not sure what else I'd do. I have Compiz enabled on my machine, and not just for the fancy animations, LOL.

Hope all goes well!

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I really wish YouTube could use Ogg Theora and <video> tags...
I hear you, definitely. Flash is such a resource pig; my CPU usage soars to nearly 100% while watching YouTube vids.

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Old 12-29-2009, 08:17 PM   #10
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Anyways, enough rambling I think if you can get Compiz to work, that would be great, as then all open windows are rendered into separate buffers in video memory, which *should* alleviate the smearing problem. At this point, I'm not sure what else I'd do. I have Compiz enabled on my machine, and not just for the fancy animations, LOL.
Enabling Compiz did stop the smearing problem, but the scrolling is a bit jerky now.

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I hear you, definitely. Flash is such a resource pig; my CPU usage soars to nearly 100% while watching YouTube vids.
Not to mention it's not Free/Open Source and a big pain on x86_64.

EDIT: Is there a way to get more fine-grained control on Compiz, not just the "wobbly windows" and "desktop on a cube" checkboxes in Fedora?

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Old 12-30-2009, 01:31 AM   #11
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Is there a way to get more fine-grained control on Compiz, not just the "wobbly windows" and "desktop on a cube" checkboxes in Fedora?
Install CompizConfig Settings Manager (ccsm). You should be able to find it in your software repos. It allows you to enable/disable/tweak just about every plugin Compiz has. It should be more than "fine-grained" enough
 
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I tried installing ccsm, but whatever I do doesn't seem to take effect. For example I click on the "Wobbly Windows" checkbox and it doesn't change anything. There doesn't appear to be any kind of "Apply" or "OK" button.
 
  


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