Firebird installation/abysmal documentation :}

Tinkster · 11-26-2003, 06:49 PM

Hi Gents,

for about an hour and a half I've been now trying to
make sense of firebirds (Firebird-1.0.3.972.src.tar.gz)
documentation regarding Linux, the bootkit thing
(bootkit-1.0.0.796.tar.gz) which just has more source
without any makefiles, insetad of the suggested
bootstrap version of firebird ....

FirebirdSS-1.5.0.4027-RC7.i686.tar.gz doesn't work
either ... I can't understand why this would be a
popular database engine :}

Code:

root@diggn:/usr/src/FirebirdSS-1.5.0.4027-RC7.i686# ./install.sh 

Firebird super 1.5.0.4027-RC7.i686 Installation

Press Enter to start installation or ^C to abort
Extracting install data
groupadd: invalid option -- r
usage: groupadd [-g gid [-o]] group
useradd: invalid option -- r
usage: useradd  [-u uid [-o]] [-g group] [-G group,...] 
                [-d home] [-s shell] [-c comment] [-m [-k template]]
                [-f inactive] [-e expire ] [-p passwd] name
       useradd  -D [-g group] [-b base] [-s shell]
                [-f inactive] [-e expire ]
chown: `firebird.firebird': invalid user
chown: `firebird.firebird': invalid user
chown: `firebird.firebird': invalid user
chown: `firebird.firebird': invalid user
chown: `firebird.firebird': invalid user
chown: `firebird.firebird': invalid user
chown: `firebird.firebird': invalid user
cp: missing destination file

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Just googled for user-/groupadd -r ....

Quote:

Code:

       -r     This flag is used to create a system account.  That
	      is, an user with an UID lower than value of UID_MIN
	      defined in /etc/login.defs. Note that useradd  will
	      not  create  a  home  directory  for  such an user,
	      regardless    of	  the	 default    setting    in
	      /etc/login.defs.	 You have to specify -m option if
	      you want a home directory for a system  account  to
	      be created.  This is an option added by Red Hat.

BAH :}
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Bah :} ... listing RH, MDK, Gentoo, SuSE, Debian ...

Slackers out of Luck?

What are

Code:

fillup/sysconfig	in SuSE?
insserv			in Debian?
chkconfig		in RH/MDK?

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I'm now about to edit the installer and see whether
I can fix all this, but hey ... ;)

Cheers,
Tink

Tinkster · 11-28-2003, 03:58 PM

BUMP :}

Quote:

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Bah :} ... listing RH, MDK, Gentoo, SuSE, Debian ...

Slackers out of Luck?

What are

Code:

fillup/sysconfig	in SuSE?
insserv			in Debian?
chkconfig		in RH/MDK?

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Cheers,
Tink

mariuz · 11-29-2003, 01:32 PM

add an user firebird before the install
useradd firebird
then run the install
ps: i think the useradd command in slackware doesn't know the '-r' option

cougyr · 11-29-2003, 06:52 PM

When I first installed Firebird (apt-get install mozilla-firebird) [I love Debian], the browser really impressed me. It loaded quickly, surfed quickly and was very configurable. However, the longer I used it the slower it got. Yes, I purged history and cookie files, and even the phoenix directory. Finally, I switched to Opera 7.21.

Tinkster · 11-29-2003, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mariuz
add an user firebird before the install
useradd firebird
then run the install
ps: i think the useradd command in slackware doesn't know the '-r' option :( :scratch:

I actually got over that user bit by editing
the install script. However, I have no idea
what those other tools mentioned are, and
how to work around it in Slack.

Cheers,
Tink

Mephisto · 11-30-2003, 01:43 AM

Have you tried using rpm2tgz on the redhat RPMs? I have not tried installing firebird sql on any of my Slack boxes yet, so I am afraid I can't help much. Alternatively, if you have a Redhat box you could compile using checkinstall and make a tgz? Personally, having used both, I prefer Postgre over Firebird, though FSQL is lower maintenance.

chkconfig is a SysV app for active/inactive services if I remember correctly, I don't recognize the other two... sorry

lsces · 11-30-2003, 09:21 AM

You will find the support you need at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird-support/

but a request has been posed there linking to here

The documentation on Firebird has been somewhat affected by the fact that Borland made it all available, and then pulled it back in house., but there is some use stuff at

http://www.ibphoenix.com/

in particular the knowledgebase

unordained · 11-30-2003, 03:10 PM

we've been using firebird under slackware for years. we use the .rpm though, and just use --nodeps when installing (since slackware doesn't keep the list of dependencies straight, or at all) and ... oh, don't forget to create /etc/rc.d/init.d before installing, since it's gonna stick a file there. (rather redhat-oriented.) other than that, i don't recall having any trouble with firebird-SS (rpm) under slackware.

granted, you wanted to use the tarballs / recompile it yourself, and this doesn't help there. sorry.

mhsabado · 11-30-2003, 07:57 PM

I wish I could help but the first time I installed firebird fresh from download took me about 3 command lines and it's done using the tar. When I tried the .rpm took me a single command line (rpm -ivh fire....). I'm afraid getting into the manual might just complicate me considering the error messages encountered as you have posted. I've done this during the first time I heard of firebird.

Tinkster · 11-30-2003, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by unordained
[e've been using firebird under slackware for years. we use the .rpm though, and just use --nodeps when installing (since slackware doesn't keep the list of dependencies straight, or at all) and ... oh, don't forget to create /etc/rc.d/init.d before installing, since it's gonna stick a file there. (rather redhat-oriented.) other than that, i don't recall having any trouble with firebird-SS (rpm) under slackware.

granted, you wanted to use the tarballs / recompile it yourself, and this doesn't help there. sorry.

Thanks, I appreciate your post, and I'll
give it a shot with your sugestions.

An extra big thanks for popping in here -
I assume you came to LQ because of the
post on Yahoo-groups? :)

I do prefer to install from source, but a
sub-optimal working solution will do for
now ;) - I'll keep you informed here.

Cheers,
Tink

pcisar · 12-01-2003, 08:07 AM

> fillup/sysconfig

It's SuSE-only thing. You don't need to care about it.

> insserv in Debian?
> chkconfig in RH/MDK?

Two different methods to active/inactive initd services. relevant only for SuperServer.

mbabuskov · 12-01-2003, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tinkster
Hi Gents,

for about an hour and a half I've been now trying to
make sense of firebirds (Firebird-1.0.3.972.src.tar.gz)
documentation regarding Linux, the bootkit thing
(bootkit-1.0.0.796.tar.gz) which just has more source
without any makefiles, insetad of the suggested
bootstrap version of firebird ....

FirebirdSS-1.5.0.4027-RC7.i686.tar.gz doesn't work
either ... I can't understand why this would be a
popular database engine :}

Building Firebird 1.0 versions is a hard nut to crack. The problem with it is that you already have to have a working system to build it. Why is it like that? Well, let's say that's the way Borland's developers did the thing at the time they released the source code (mid 2000), and Firebird team just left it that way.

That is fixed in 1.5, so people can easily build everything from source, but there is this problem with groupadd -r option. Some systems just don't have -r option. The issue has been discussed on firebird-devel list @ sourceforge, and it will probably be fixed in the next version. One of the arguments was that -r is an option listed in LSB documents, so it's legal to use it. I don't remember what was the final word on this, perhaps you can look at firebird-devel archives?

I do run FB 1.0 on one slack box, but it was something I did manually (copied all files from another instalation on another box), so I wouldn't recommend it.

Good luck with it.

jvzsys · 06-05-2005, 03:16 AM

Hi
How do I install Firebird 1.52 on Ubuntu?
Classic or Super?

I found this about Firebird on
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21618.html

"Firebird can be installed by following these steps:

1. Enable universe repository (see www.ubuntuguide.org)
2. $ apt-get install firebird2-classic-server (or firebird2-super-server,
according to your needs, see Firebird web)
3. $ apt-get install firebird2-utils-classic

Then you can use the isql-fb app to create/connect to a database and execute
SQL queries.

If you need php4 support, execute
4. $ apt-get install php4-interbase

See www.firebirdsql.org for tutorials and documentation."

I have tried all sorts of combinations - nothing works.

Thx

mariuz · 06-08-2005, 02:36 AM

more details please

the server started ?

ps awwwx | grep firebird
should give something like this

Code:

 5832 ?        S      0:00 /opt/firebird/bin/fbguard -f
 5847 ?        Sl     0:00 /opt/firebird/bin/fbserver

jvzsys · 06-08-2005, 08:38 AM

What I mean is - I cannot find an install of Firebird 1.52 to download and install
Cheers