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Old 03-08-2014, 09:20 AM   #1
nuoritoveri
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File manager to open when using pentadactyl


Hi,

I cannot use mouse because prolonged use is painful to my arm. I try to use keyboard whereever possible. I'm using Pentadactyl plugin for Iceweasel. I sometimes have problems with downloading files. I'm using
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;s
to do this, but sometimes it causes link 'names' or something like that to download instead of files. So I have to use regular file manager, which means clicking

By file manager I mean the dialog in which you choose the filename/file/folder. I think it is somehow connected with file manager (if someone could explain it to me it would be great), because for Gnome applications they look like Nautilus and for KDE like Dolphin. They also share the shortcuts I made in the particular file manager.

So I was thinking if I can substitute this dialog with application that you can operate with keyborad only. It would be useful not only for Iceweasel but also for other GUI programs that generally allow you to use keyboard most of the time.

My question is, whether such an dialog implementation exists and how to hook it to the applications in which you choose files/filenames/folders.
 
Old 03-08-2014, 10:35 AM   #2
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I don't understand your post. You say,
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So I have to use regular file manager, which means clicking
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No you don't. You have keyboard shortcuts for pretty much anything you want to do. You can also use your arrow keys to navigate the file system on your file manager.
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By file manager I mean the dialog in which you choose the filename/file/folder. I think it is somehow connected with file manager (if someone could explain it to me it would be great), because for Gnome applications they look like Nautilus and for KDE like Dolphin. They also share the shortcuts I made in the particular file manager.
Do you mean the dialogue that appears when you want to save/open a file? That is typically part of the application you're using (e.g. Libreoffice, Amarok, Kate, etc.) In any event, they all come with keyboard shortcuts and you can usually add more if need be. Can you take us through exactly what you're trying to do and what applications you're using to do it with.
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:43 PM   #3
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Hi,

so the scenario is: I want to download the file. I use ;s and choose the file link, type the path I want it to be saved and go to that folder in console. I see that the file I wanted did not save, but some strange link or page excerpt. So I go to browser again, I type f and choose file link again. The dialog opens (is really the part of application? because it looks like Nautilus on Debian and like Windows file manager on Windows?) I can click it to choose the file location and it saves correctly.

I don't know the shortcuts to navigate this dialog manually, for example go up in folder or use shortcuts from the left panel. I would prefer something that is intented to be used with keyboard or something that I can add keyboard shortcuts to.
 
Old 03-09-2014, 01:28 AM   #4
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Hi,

so the scenario is: I want to download the file. I use ;s and choose the file link, type the path I want it to be saved and go to that folder in console.
This sounds like you're using a browser. Is that correct? Then which browser? Firefox? Chrome? Opera? I don't understand the command : ";s" Do you mean Ctl-s? (which is the shortcut for saving a page.) Once you type the path you want the file saved in what do you type? The rest of what you wrote I don't understand at all. You really need to put down exactly what you're doing if you expect help. From what I can understand you don't really need to use a mouse at all to do what you want.
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:29 AM   #5
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Sorry for the confusion.
I'm using Iceweasel, which is Firefox under Debian, with Pentadactyl plugin, which is Vimperator fork. This plugin allows to manipulate browser without using mouse, it also allows to save files without using keyboard (using Pentadactyl command ';s', but sometimes it does not work. The solution then is to just click on the file (using Pentadactyl command 'f'), but then you have to use normal file saving dialog, which I cannot manipulate with keyboard only (I cannot go up in folder structure, I cannot just type the path, because it does not make path suggestions and I cannot use path shortcuts etc.).

My question is can I substitute this dialog with some other program? Because I think it uses Nautilus, because it looks just like Nautilus and it displays the shortcuts I made in Nautilus.

Last edited by nuoritoveri; 03-09-2014 at 01:48 PM.
 
Old 03-09-2014, 01:12 PM   #6
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I'm afraid you've lost me totally now. In your opening post you say you don't want to use a mouse. Now you say you have a Pentadactyl plugin that "allows to manipulate browser without using keyboard". I thought your problem was you wanted to do everything via the keyboard. Now it seems you don't want to use the keyboard.

At this point I can only wish you good luck. I still have no idea of what you're trying to do.
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:48 PM   #7
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Sorry, I meant mouse there. I edited the post.
 
Old 03-09-2014, 02:34 PM   #8
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So we're back to square zero. What exactly do you want to do? I have already described how you can use/create keyboard shortcuts. Until you supply details there's not much more I can do for you.
jdk

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Old 03-09-2014, 03:59 PM   #9
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I think I see where your issue. Some download links are actually php or javascript or some other script language link rather than a direct link to your download. so doing a "save as" which is what you are doing gets gobbly-gook instead of your file.

If you can get the file save dialogue open (what you call the file manager), then you should be able to navigate the various fields with the tab key. You can navigate the file trees with the arrow keys, backspace, enter, and tab (at least usually)
 
  


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