Find definitions online...
hacker = one who hacks
sans = without
Yes yes ... edit your profile to show that, as well as some location.

Feedback please: did you get totem to play avi files after the suggestions I made?

Read the advice in my sig.

Oh Yeah sorry I've been busy at work and shiot! I got it to add the ogg file which was bad ass I installed the MP3 and the ogg plug in and it worked (who'd of thought now it's a matter of installing the ALSD plugin cause now it won't play but that's another story all together!

xmms has a config option to use alsa - you checked that?

Hackers aren't people who do hacking, or hacks.

Crackers are the one doing hacking or intrusion upon computer based systems.

Hackers are professionals hired by organisations to defend against attacks from crackers.

Over the years, peole have been calling hackers synonymously with intruders. I bet the hackers must get really annoyed for people thinking of them as crackers haha.

No I haven't tried following your instructions, never saw it as instruction. Just looks to me like you're describing about your own Totem movie player, but nevermind, I'll see what I can do with it.



Chuong.

Chuong: don't tell Richard Stallman. (But read the definition in the link I provided with the word.)

hack-er - noun: one who hacks (see verb)

to hack - verb: to be able or to be capable (specifically with respect to computers) to be enthusiastic about ... originally used in connection with the MIT model railway club - became connected with the AI laboratory there.

useage: I can't hack this any longer. Emacs users quickly learn to hack macros to their best effect.

"happy hacking" -- rms

The derivation is similar to other "er" ending words in English.
ruler = one who rules
walker = one who walks
user = one who uses
... and so on.

Of course, meter is "one that measures" or "a measure" or "a unit of length" (i.e. a specific kind of measure)... and "ruler" can be "one that rules" (as in geometery). But that's English for you.

See, that really gets me... the stupid media keep misleading the public into thinking hackers are malicious fellow who illegally break into other people's computers. Have you seen the "Hacker Safe" logo displayed on more and more Web sites? I just can't help but feel offended by this move as a hacker-wannabe.

As I've said, people over the years think of hackers as people who intrude on computer systems, thus the term hacking was seen as gaining unauthorised access to other's computer system for whatever reasons.

Yes, like you said hackers derived from hack.

You're seeing the word "hack" as intrusion upon computer based system, but that's the conventional view or stereoptypical view of the word "hack". Technically, it should be called "cracking" instead of "hacking".

If you've watched the movie about Kevin Mitnick, one of the masters of "hacking", he is a cracker who hacks or should I say, cracks into the FBI computers, national banks. The other asian guy is a hacker, working for a business, and he created this firewall of some sort, that he thinks is bullet proof. Ironically, his bullet proof firewall was pierced by Kevin Mitnick, who cracked his code.

This movie about Kevin Mitnick is based on a true story, and if I remember correctly, Kevin Mitnick was released on January 2000 or something. I've also seen books of Kevin Mitnick or about him, "The Art of Deception - Kevin Mitnick"

Not trying to start any hacking thing here, just discussing the issue of hacking (or cracking).

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My information is based on the stuff I read from the article book I bought at university, so if I'm wrong then they're wrong, too, I guess.

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Anyhow, I was trying to install the gstreamer thingo, and this is what I did, but failed:

yum install gstreamer-ffmpeg (as root of course)

The command prompt gave me this output:

[root@bigserver CaveMan]# yum install gstreamer-ffmpeg
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Parsing package install arguments
No Match for argument: gstreamer-ffmpeg
Nothing to do

Any ideas? Something about source directory maybe, whatever that means?

I don't know what's wrong with it, but I can't install the gstreamer-ffmpeg package.

Any help would be appreciated,



Chuong.

No I am not. Where did you get that silly idea from? (quote please)

Please note: you are responding to a post (of mine) which asked you for feedback on the suggestions made to you about your xmms troubles. I pointed out that it is impolite to keep a hacker (i.e. me) without feedback ... you still have not provided that feedback... you are continuing to be impolite.

I urge you to read through the advice link in my sig ... and demonstrate that you understand this when you next post anything to anybody.

What the?

I didn't respond to your post?

A response doesn't necessarily have to be what you want it to be.

I did say "No I haven't tried following your instructions, never saw it as instruction. Just looks to me like you're describing about your own Totem movie player, but nevermind, I'll see what I can do with it.
"

Please read my words before making another post saying I didn't respond to your post or of similar nature such as not responding to your feedback!

I never said in my post before about any XMMS thing. I only said Totem movie player, no XMMS. When did I say "I need help with XMMS" besides this sentence?

Just because you think I'm not replying to the post, and you're calling that impolite?

That really sounds like a baby's attitude to me. Like "I demand your attention!!!"

A thousand people aren't responding to your post too, does that mean the people on this forum not responding to your post are being impolite to you, too?

Senior members are supposed to welcome forum newbies or at least not saying they're impolite. It's impolite that they're doing this - to call us newbies impolites, rather than welcome us!

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You did give me the definition of what hacking/hacker/hack is, did you not?

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See, even daihard agrees, good on ya mate!

Hackers are seen as the conventional view of a person who intrudes on computer systems. Just like how people say "the sun rises" which it doesn't. It's the Earth revolving around the sun.

= /

Still no luck, on my problem.



Chuong.

... ah yes: #19 (you should include the reference with your quotes)... my bad. I missed that because of the stuff about definitions. So you were telling me about why you didn't take the advise:You gave that a go and...... now this happened because you didn't enable the required repos. Admittedly that was not clear in my post. Since you have fedora core 4, you can follow the yum instructions in www.fedorafaq.org and try again.

As for the rest:That I did... can you quote to me the part of my definition which lead you to believe that I was "seeing the word 'hack' as intrusion upon computer based system" (you from post #22 and quoted in post #23).

Also see: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=hack ... for more understanding on the many uses and meanings for the word.

Oh the behavior I described is impolite - read the forum rules, read the "advice" link in my sig. if you want to know how to behave towards hackers... particularily if you want to be a hacker yourself. however: you were largely innocent of the charge - I just didn't read all your post. My apologies for that.

Only, let me put this in perspective for you: I answer about (on the order of) 100 requests for assistance each day. If I was going to be offended, I wouldn't reply. If I take the time to redirect you, prompt you, or try to modify your behaviour, it means I think you may be worth it. This goes for any hacker.

You could also try the following "how to become a hacker"
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

Oh I found that but the thing is that I am getting an error when trying to compile the source code. Maybe I'm saying something wrong here cause I'm a newb at Linux but I'm slowly catching on. I'm at work right now but I will post the error when I get home. around 5:30 Central time. If you could help that would rock and maybe I'll learn a few things.

Which distro are you using?

Wooo hooo!

^_^

Thank you sir Simon.

yum install gstreamer-plugins-mp3

=D

That site is quite helpful, very precise instructions, more precise than the manuals that came with the Fedora Help.



Chuong.

Well, my Totem can play mp3 now, but how do I play movie files such as .dat format.

I tried opening a music video file that has a .dat extension, but Totem and RealPlayer just quits after they have boot up, before anything is played.

Any plugins for movie files such as AVI and DAT?

Oh by the way, I wasn't the one trying to be a hacker, some other guy was though.



Chuong.

Well done.

OK - here's a big suggestion for the hacker-to-be:
What you really want is to be able to find this stuff for yourself and not ask me all the time. I'm short-tempered and grumpy

yum install yumex

this will create a "Yum Extender" launcher in main > system tools. It is a graphical frontend to yum and it basically allows you to browse your active repos and have a look at what they have. (You can also enable or disable repos on the fly.)

And yes, there are plugins for playing all proprietary file formats. (I've never tried .dat files)

You should also read:
www.fedorafaq.org (the rest of this)
www.mjmwired.net > resources > FC4 installation
(This last includes quite a detailed description of just what all those packages actually do.)