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Old 04-14-2009, 08:21 AM   #1
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Fedora Core 10... huh?


I first started using linux at Fedora Core 6...and it was great. I used it everywhere, and really got setting it up down to a science.

A few days ago my fC6 repo stopped working (but thats not my issue) I decided to upgrade to FC10 to resolve the issue...I was all excited... and then BAM! I noticed that FC10 was lacking in many ways FD6 wasnt. Like remote desktop, samba gui, the services manager sucks...and others. What did they do, start over from scratch?? Have you seen what you have to do to get VNC to work properly on 10?? I am a GUI person, and I dont really like editing multiple configuration files to get something to work...I didnt have to do it in 6!!! Ill be honest with you...I hope it is something that I am missing.

Can anybody help with say...vnc server, or anything else?

Thanks,

B

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Old 04-14-2009, 08:50 AM   #2
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I first started using linux at Fedora Core 6...and it was great. I used it everywhere, and really got setting it up down to a science.

A few days ago my fC6 repo stopped working
Which is surprising as FC6 has been obsolete for someyears now.
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(but thats not my issue) I decided to upgrade to FC10 to resolve the issue...I was all excited... and then BAM! I noticed that FC10 was lacking in many ways FD6 wasnt. Like remote desktop, samba gui, the services manager sucks...and others. What did they do, start over from scratch??
Pretty much, yes. There was a major change at fedora 7-8 (note - it is no longer "fedora core".
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Have you seen what you have to do to get VNC to work properly on 10?? I am a GUI person, and I dont really like editing multiple configuration files to get something to work...I didnt have to do it in 6!!! Ill be honest with you...I hope it is something that I am missing.
Well - we don't normally do GUI solutions here - just not practical over text communication. CLI is more exact.
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Can anybody help with say...vnc server, or anything else?
Sure, but you have to be specific.

AFAIK: nothing changed for vlc server.
 
Old 04-14-2009, 07:45 PM   #3
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Fedora 10 setup

You are not alone.
I recently had a lightning incident that took out
my FC8 machine.

I was very nervous when I bought a new machine.
What hardware is going to be compatible with what
OS?

I ended up buying a Lenovo IdeaCenter K210.
I first installed Fedora 8. It installed and ran
beautifully. The only hardware that was not covered
was the Webcam. Now however, I have programs that no
longer work Wireshark, etc.

After some research, I found that Fedora 10 might
cover the webcam. I downloaded and installed
Fedora 10 and it worked. My Webcam now is
functioning, all my hardware is now functioning.

However, the experience was not all roses. The Fedora
10 installer skipped many steps. after the install I
ended up with a Gnome desktop with no functioning GUI
hardware setup tools that worked.

I was forced to redo the entire machine from the
command line. I do not use Gnome, I prefer KDE.
By default KDE was not available to me after the
install.

The first thing I had to do was make KDE work.
I did this by booting into runlevel 3. Then from
rc.conf I manually loaded KDM. Now the machine
boots into KDE. Next I had to use the command tools
to set up the network Interfaces, and the whole rest
of the machine.

I still often use Fedora 10, but in my view it is very
broken at the moment. I also had trouble with the default
file manager. I cannot recall the name, but it is very
unstable. I am hoping Fedora 11 is better. If Fedora 11
is not better then I will switch permanently to FreeBSD.
As FreeBSD also works on this new machine. Without the
flaws.
 
Old 04-15-2009, 05:36 PM   #4
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Which is surprising as FC6 has been obsolete for someyears now.Pretty much, yes. There was a major change at fedora 7-8 (note - it is no longer "fedora core".Well - we don't normally do GUI solutions here - just not practical over text communication. CLI is more exact.Sure, but you have to be specific.

AFAIK: nothing changed for vlc server.
Alright... so for VNC...in the past, I would just install vnc server. Then I would go to remote desktop sharing and configure it. I dont see remote desktop sharing in 10.

If you feellike tackling samba as well, I wont argue with you
 
Old 04-15-2009, 08:09 PM   #5
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Interesting - when I was running FC6 I installed vnc + server via yum, and editing it's configuration file. I've never used the gui for this.

http://www.g-loaded.eu/2005/11/10/co...ver-in-fedora/
... all I've ever had to do is change the exported desktop.

What I mostly used this for was to use an old windows box via a crossover cable. I just ran the windows vnc server insecurely on it's defaults (since I figured I'd notice if someone was wiresniffing ) But I used to demonstrate vnc on linux to others (it's different from vnc on windows) ... even warping peoples minds by vncing to the local machine.

Looking for other peoples experiences in FC6, I don't find any mention of a gui approach - you seem to have missed an opportunity here. I do find lots of instructions like this:
http://www.wiredatom.com/blog/2006/1...fedora-core-6/
... which is exactly what I remember.

Here's a recent one - probably the one you should use:
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=194101
... this is very complete and tries to anticipate everything that can possibly go wrong, so it looks more involved than it is. This is for f9 - it is substantially the same as the FC6 and f10 should be the same too.

Now I am not doubting your recollection here - just that what you describe has not been the standard way of doing this. If this is a fedora thing, then I'd imagine the program would be called system-config-vnc (or similar): a helper utility which you may have had to install separate so long ago that you just forgot.


Samba configuration methods have changed - it used to be a matter of editing config files ad nausium.
Now it seems to be pretty routine and mostly automated.

In Ubuntu, you rt-click on the folder you want to share and then click "share folder". That's pretty much it. More complicated uses of windows networking are, well, more complicated. It can also get dificult when there are lots of windows-network computers around ... the various auctions can tie things up.

I've only used samba client on fedora (due to that windows box) using NFS for unix-unix stuff. Usually server-client is more reliable and easier to secure than peer-to-peer. Though SMB has got better.

For recent fedoras - try:
http://miltonpaiva.wordpress.com/200...amba-fedora-9/
... I've picked this one as it is gui-freindly, but also includes the config file as a double-check.
 
  


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