FC6 gets slower and slower and slower...

jonrpick · 07-29-2007, 01:00 AM

Hi all... My machine is getting horrendously slow. I have no idea why. It's a P4 with a gig of RAM. It used to be very fast on all things, particularly web surfing. But now, it's unbearable. Clicking a link slows the machine to a crawl, to where even the mouse is jumpy, and the hard drive starts clicking as if I'd just opened a new app.

Things seemed to get slower after the update before the last one. At that time, Gaim suddenly became "Pidgin" (WTF?) and everything else seemed to be normal.

Running Top doesn't give me any obvious info, and I'm also running System Monitor in my XFCE toolbar. It shows Firefox (v1.5xxx) as being the biggest comsumer of RAM (89.4MB right now), and very little CPU is being used (currently 10%).

I will answer any questions you ask, as best as I can. For right now, I have no idea where to begin.

Even as I typed this, the screen output couldn't keep up with my fingers.

HELP!!!

~jp

blackhole54 · 07-29-2007, 08:16 AM

What is your swap usage? (You can user either top or free commands to determine this.) What is the output of:

df -h

jonrpick · 07-29-2007, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackhole54

What is your swap usage? (You can user either top or free commands to determine this.) What is the output of:

df -h

df -h produced this:

Code:

[pickens@localhost ~]$ df -h
Filesystem            Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
                       35G 5.1G   28G  16% /
/dev/hda1              99M  17M   78M  18% /boot
tmpfs                 501M    0  501M   0% /dev/shm
[pickens@localhost ~]$

BTW, when I clicked the icon for 'terminal' it took exactly 13 seconds before I had a prompt from which I could type.

~jp

jiml8 · 07-29-2007, 11:24 AM

df command doesn't list swap. Try the vmstat command instead.

man vmstat gives all the options; vmstat without any options will provide useful information on your average page swap rates.

vmstat -s will tell you explicitly what your swap status is.

jonrpick · 07-29-2007, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiml8

df command doesn't list swap. Try the vmstat command instead.

man vmstat gives all the options; vmstat without any options will provide useful information on your average page swap rates.

vmstat -s will tell you explicitly what your swap status is.

That's more like it...I can see the high RAM usage now. But I can't tell where it's been used!?!?

Ok, here's a snippet of the output from vmstat -s:

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[pickens@localhost ~]$ vmstat -s
      1024808  total memory
      1011040  used memory
       537824  active memory
         2804  inactive memory
        13768  free memory
          304  buffer memory
        30276  swap cache
      2097144  total swap
       707708  used swap
      1389436  free swap

Thanks,

~jp

lazlow · 07-29-2007, 12:44 PM

You might want to post your top. You have a lot of swap used, probably why it is so slow. You may have enough small processes running that while no one process is using a lot of memory, combined you have ran yourself out. If you are running beagle that can soak a ton of cpu cycles and be tough to catch in top.

jonrpick · 07-29-2007, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazlow

You might want to post your top. You have a lot of swap used, probably why it is so slow. You may have enough small processes running that while no one process is using a lot of memory, combined you have ran yourself out. If you are running beagle that can soak a ton of cpu cycles and be tough to catch in top.

Ok, I need a little help here. When I run Top, it goes down below the bottom of the terminal window and there's no way to scroll down.

Is there a way to capture the data to a file that includes the entire contents of Top?

~jp

lazlow · 07-29-2007, 01:02 PM

Take a look at:

man top

top -b -n 20 >top.txt

Would be one example of how to move it to a file.

jonrpick · 07-29-2007, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazlow

You might want to post your top. You have a lot of swap used, probably why it is so slow. You may have enough small processes running that while no one process is using a lot of memory, combined you have ran yourself out. If you are running beagle that can soak a ton of cpu cycles and be tough to catch in top.

Here's the entire Top output via a "top -b -n 1"

Code:

top - 14:00:21 up 27 days, 20:51,  1 user,  load average: 1.16, 0.91, 0.81
Tasks: 119 total,   2 running, 111 sleeping,   0 stopped,   6 zombie
Cpu(s):  7.1%us,  1.9%sy,  0.4%ni, 89.2%id,  1.2%wa,  0.2%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:   1024808k total,  1009044k used,    15764k free,      740k buffers
Swap:  2097144k total,   710828k used,  1386316k free,    35288k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND                                
 2657 root      15   0  345m  78m 5188 S  2.0  7.8 872:20.09 Xorg                                   
28853 pickens   15   0  2200  928  712 R  2.0  0.1   0:00.01 top                                    
    1 root      15   0  2040  308  284 S  0.0  0.0   0:05.39 init                                   
    2 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 migration/0                            
    3 root      37  19     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.59 ksoftirqd/0                            
    4 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/0                             
    5 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:04.83 events/0                               
    6 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.80 khelper                                
    7 root      11  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthread                                
   56 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:05.57 kblockd/0                              
   57 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kacpid                                 
  128 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 cqueue/0                               
  129 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksuspend_usbd                          
  132 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khubd                                  
  134 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kseriod                                
  156 root      11  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   2:39.94 kswapd0                                
  157 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/0                                  
  322 root      11  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kpsmoused                              
  346 root      16  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ata/0                                  
  347 root      16  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ata_aux                                
  354 root      19  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kmirrord                               
  359 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksnapd                                 
  362 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   4:12.50 kjournald                              
  395 root      11  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kauditd                                
  429 root      19  -4  2920  220  220 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.78 udevd                                  
  899 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ac97/0                                 
 1060 pickens   16   0     0    0    0 Z  0.0  0.0   0:00.85 gedit <defunct>                        
 1447 root      17  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kmpathd/0                              
 1471 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kjournald                              
 1871 root      15   0  2276  252  252 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.12 dhclient                               
 1932 root      18   0  9940  236  236 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.17 restorecond                            
 1943 root      18   0  1696  308  276 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.90 syslogd                                
 1946 root      15   0  1640  188  188 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.11 klogd                                  
 1973 root      18   0  2124  288  244 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.91 mcstransd                              
 1986 rpc       15   0  1776  168  168 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 portmap                                
 2061 dbus      17   0 13088  476  476 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.40 dbus-daemon                            
 2073 root      18   0  2116  264  264 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 hcid                                   
 2099 root       9 -10     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 krfcommd                               
 2139 root      15   0 33180  496  384 S  0.0  0.0   0:56.52 pcscd                                  
 2160 root      25   0  1876  208  208 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 hidd                                   
 2195 root      18   0  1644  260  260 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 acpid                                  
 2257 ntp       15   0  4136  576  468 S  0.0  0.1   0:03.80 ntpd                                   
 2283 root      15   0  8588  496  368 S  0.0  0.0   0:09.23 sendmail                               
 2294 smmsp     15   0  7580  352  352 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.07 sendmail                               
 2306 root      18   0  1872  236  224 S  0.0  0.0   0:18.94 gpm                                    
 2317 root      25   0  1808  248  248 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 nasd                                   
 2328 root      18   0  5224  364  308 S  0.0  0.0   0:01.11 crond                                  
 2361 xfs       16   0  3752 1124  428 S  0.0  0.1   0:17.26 xfs                                    
 2382 root      18   0  2208  236  196 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.17 atd                                    
 2404 root      18   0 49444 7900  940 S  0.0  0.8  55:08.39 yum-updatesd                           
 2416 avahi     18   0  2540  344  344 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.04 avahi-daemon                           
 2417 avahi     24   0  2540  116  116 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 avahi-daemon                           
 2432 haldaemo  19   0  5384 1116  800 S  0.0  0.1   0:07.59 hald                                   
 2433 root      16   0  2976  388  388 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.04 hald-runner                            
 2439 haldaemo  15   0  1968  268  268 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 hald-addon-acpi                        
 2447 haldaemo  15   0  1964  296  272 S  0.0  0.0   0:06.88 hald-addon-keyb                        
 2454 haldaemo  25   0  1964  264  264 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 hald-addon-keyb                        
 2457 haldaemo  25   0  1964  264  264 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 hald-addon-keyb                        
 2465 root      18   0  1920  236  216 S  0.0  0.0   7:45.99 hald-addon-stor                        
 2479 pickens   18   0     0    0    0 Z  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 soffice <defunct>                      
 2537 root      16   0  3100  400  252 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.33 smartd                                 
 2543 root      19   0  1624  172  172 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty                               
 2544 root      18   0  1628  172  172 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty                               
 2545 root      19   0  1624  172  172 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty                               
 2546 root      20   0  1624  172  172 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty                               
 2547 root      20   0  1628  172  172 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty                               
 2548 root      24   0  1628  172  172 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty                               
 2580 root      23   0  4488  292  292 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 prefdm                                 
 2583 root      15   0 16552  932  924 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.05 gdm-binary                             
 2648 root      17   0 15720  672  632 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.09 gdm-binary                             
 2654 root      15   0 16552  308  256 S  0.0  0.0   0:16.71 gdm-binary                             
 2785 pickens   25   0  4436  288  288 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.12 sh                                     
 2841 pickens   18   0  4296  136  100 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.85 ssh-agent                              
 2844 pickens   18   0  2736  272  272 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 dbus-launch                            
 2845 pickens   15   0 12960  584  472 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.78 dbus-daemon                            
 2853 pickens   15   0 36052 3232 2380 S  0.0  0.3  19:32.74 xfce4-session                          
 2856 pickens   15   0 57248 2584 1748 S  0.0  0.3   4:17.31 xfce-mcs-manage                        
 2857 pickens   15   0 47480 5612 3632 S  0.0  0.5  17:51.69 xfwm4                                  
 2858 pickens   15   0  291m 162m 5184 S  0.0 16.2  96:07.46 xfdesktop                              
 2860 pickens   15   0  2516  692  508 S  0.0  0.1   1:03.57 gam_server                             
 2862 pickens   15   0 86152 3684 2964 S  0.0  0.4   0:26.17 Thunar                                 
 2867 pickens   15   0 49720 6244 3864 S  0.0  0.6 200:38.81 xfce4-panel                            
 2869 pickens   15   0  263m 173m 5604 S  0.0 17.4  85:13.09 xfce4-menu-plug                        
 2870 pickens   15   0 37012 3772 2868 R  0.0  0.4   4:12.68 xfce4-weather-p                        
 2872 pickens   16   0 23916 2456 2120 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.52 xfce4-xfapplet-                        
 2873 pickens   16   0 52084 2612 2612 S  0.0  0.3   0:01.35 xfce4-xfapplet-                        
 2889 pickens   15   0 14112 1744 1744 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.12 bluetooth-apple                        
 2897 pickens   19   0 38508  764  764 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.14 bonobo-activati                        
 2901 pickens   24   0 16292  468  420 S  0.0  0.0   0:17.29 escd                                   
 2911 pickens   16   0 96860  16m 3544 S  0.0  1.6  33:33.01 gweather-applet                        
 2913 pickens   15   0 50120 2952 2608 S  0.0  0.3  12:59.94 multiload-apple                        
 2929 pickens   15   0 49568 3744 2868 S  0.0  0.4   0:19.66 xfce4-mixer-plu                        
 3104 pickens   15   0 36316 3276 2476 S  0.0  0.3   4:32.15 notification-da                        
 3494 pickens   18   0 28136  776  776 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.18 bonobo-activati                        
 3499 pickens   16   0 19272  800  800 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.04 evolution-data-                        
 3909 pickens   16   0 11164  860  860 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.08 gnome-vfs-daemo                        
15372 pickens   15   0 46340 6576 4168 S  0.0  0.6 175:06.99 gnome-system-mo                        
17681 pickens   18   0     0    0    0 Z  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 soffice <defunct>                      
18336 pickens   19   0  101m  11m 7032 S  0.0  1.1   0:18.96 pidgin                                 
18384 pickens   18   0 15864 2616 2372 S  0.0  0.3   0:01.57 mousepad                               
18605 root      19   0  5196  112  112 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 sshd                                   
18822 root      19   0  6404  140  140 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 hpiod                                  
18827 root      15   0 13460  664  384 S  0.0  0.1   0:02.28 python                                 
18944 pickens   27  10  7440  864  716 S  0.0  0.1   0:17.90 gconfd-2                               
19013 root      23   0  7312  436  312 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.76 automount                              
19045 root      18   0  9604  172  172 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 cupsd                                  
19100 root      15   0  4944  100   72 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.61 rpc.idmapd                             
19150 rpcuser   24   0  1904  140  140 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 rpc.statd                              
19714 pickens   16   0     0    0    0 Z  0.0  0.0   0:01.82 eog <defunct>                          
20273 pickens   16   0     0    0    0 Z  0.0  0.0   0:04.03 eog <defunct>                          
27627 pickens   15   0 40604 7420 6148 S  0.0  0.7   0:00.98 Terminal                               
27640 pickens   18   0  2320  456  456 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 gnome-pty-helpe                        
27641 pickens   15   0  4504 1148  988 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.05 bash                                   
28361 root      15   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 pdflush                                
28396 root      15   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 pdflush                                
29168 pickens   19   0     0    0    0 Z  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 soffice <defunct>                      
32027 pickens   21   0  4452  488  488 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 firefox                                
32042 pickens   21   0  4448  480  480 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 run-mozilla.sh                         
32047 pickens   15   0  217m  70m  18m S  0.0  7.0  13:09.27 firefox-bin

Thanks,

~jp

jonrpick · 07-29-2007, 01:49 PM

BTW, I just rebooted to see what would happen... everything is much better now, but I don't believe I should have to reboot

Here's the current Top output:

Code:

top - 14:48:08 up 15 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.50, 0.40, 0.34
Tasks: 110 total,   1 running, 109 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s): 16.4%us,  3.8%sy,  0.0%ni, 72.2%id,  7.4%wa,  0.2%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:   1024808k total,   744392k used,   280416k free,    63716k buffers
Swap:  2097144k total,        0k used,  2097144k free,   433920k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND            
 2948 pickens   15   0  182m  55m  21m S  3.9  5.6   0:35.35 firefox-bin        
 3009 pickens   15   0  2200  900  700 R  1.9  0.1   0:00.02 top                
    1 root      15   0  2040  648  556 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.81 init               
    2 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 migration/0        
    3 root      34  19     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0        
    4 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/0         
    5 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 events/0           
    6 root      12  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khelper            
    7 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthread            
   56 root      19  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kblockd/0          
   57 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kacpid             
  128 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 cqueue/0           
  129 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksuspend_usbd      
  132 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khubd              
  134 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 kseriod            
  154 root      24   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 pdflush            
  155 root      15   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.02 pdflush            
  156 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kswapd0            
  157 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/0              
  322 root      11  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kpsmoused          
  346 root      16  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ata/0              
  347 root      16  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ata_aux            
  354 root      19  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kmirrord           
  359 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksnapd             
  362 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.14 kjournald          
  395 root      11  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kauditd            
  429 root      13  -4  2924 1400  372 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.79 udevd              
  965 root      17  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ac97/0             
 1445 root      17  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kmpathd/0          
 1469 root      11  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kjournald          
 1806 root      15   0  2288  492  200 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 dhclient           
 1867 root      16   0  9820 8260  240 S  0.0  0.8   0:00.00 restorecond        
 1878 root      18   0  1712  592  492 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.03 syslogd            
 1881 root      15   0  1656  396  328 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 klogd              
 1908 root      15   0  2140  388  272 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.02 mcstransd          
 1921 rpc       23   0  1788  552  460 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 portmap            
 1942 rpcuser   24   0  1904  808  692 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.01 rpc.statd          
 1979 root      15   0  4944  556  284 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 rpc.idmapd         
 1999 dbus      15   0 13096  984  724 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.03 dbus-daemon        
 2011 root      18   0  2124  772  668 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 hcid               
 2023 root      25   0  1720  500  432 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 sdpd               
 2037 root       9 -10     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 krfcommd           
 2077 root      18   0 33192 1348  596 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.05 pcscd              
 2098 root      25   0  1888  444  364 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 hidd               
 2114 root      25   0  6284 1116  880 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 automount          
 2133 root      18   0  1656  536  448 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 acpid              
 2144 root      21   0  6424  548  340 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 hpiod              
 2149 root      15   0 13468 4336  776 S  0.0  0.4   0:00.00 python             
 2161 root      18   0  9600 1992 1396 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.01 cupsd              
 2179 root      24   0  5196  932  616 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 sshd               
 2195 ntp       15   0  4144 1276  988 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.01 ntpd               
 2221 root      15   0  8596 1656  672 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.00 sendmail           
 2232 smmsp     25   0  7584 1460  628 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 sendmail           
 2244 root      15   0  1880  364  292 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 gpm                
 2255 root      25   0  1816  468  368 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 nasd               
 2266 root      18   0  5236 1192  652 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.06 crond              
 2299 xfs       18   0  3708 1636  788 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.08 xfs                
 2320 root      18   0  2220  424  300 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 atd                
 2342 root      18   0 46784  33m 3904 S  0.0  3.3   1:28.72 yum-updatesd       
 2354 avahi     15   0  2548 1352 1188 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.01 avahi-daemon       
 2355 avahi     21   0  2548  312  184 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 avahi-daemon       
 2370 haldaemo  17   0  5392 3684 1584 S  0.0  0.4   0:01.82 hald               
 2371 root      23   0  2988  900  764 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.01 hald-runner        
 2377 haldaemo  15   0  1972  784  696 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 hald-addon-acpi    
 2385 haldaemo  15   0  1976  780  692 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 hald-addon-keyb    
 2392 haldaemo  25   0  1972  776  692 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 hald-addon-keyb    
 2395 haldaemo  25   0  1972  776  692 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 hald-addon-keyb    
 2403 root      18   0  1932  640  560 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.14 hald-addon-stor    
 2475 root      18   0  3112  520  272 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 smartd             
 2481 root      23   0  1640  436  376 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty           
 2482 root      22   0  1640  436  376 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty           
 2483 root      22   0  1640  436  376 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty           
 2484 root      22   0  1636  432  376 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty           
 2485 root      25   0  1640  432  376 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty           
 2532 root      25   0  1640  436  376 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 mingetty           
 2543 root      20   0  4500 1120  984 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 prefdm             
 2546 root      22   0 16568 3812 3240 S  0.0  0.4   0:00.05 gdm-binary         
 2585 root      18   0 15392 2688 2064 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.02 gdm-binary         
 2590 root      15   0 16568 1356  792 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 gdm-binary         
 2593 root      15   0  224m  17m 8260 S  0.0  1.7   0:18.27 Xorg               
 2721 pickens   25   0  4448 1020  896 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.12 sh                 
 2777 pickens   18   0  4304  496  260 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ssh-agent          
 2780 pickens   18   0  2752  512  408 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 dbus-launch        
 2781 pickens   15   0 12968  916  716 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.01 dbus-daemon        
 2789 pickens   15   0 35908  20m  17m S  0.0  2.0   0:00.75 xfce4-session      
 2792 pickens   15   0 57136  16m  14m S  0.0  1.7   0:00.26 xfce-mcs-manage    
 2793 pickens   15   0 17064 7832 5692 S  0.0  0.8   0:00.46 xfwm4              
 2794 pickens   15   0 73676  23m  20m S  0.0  2.3   0:00.86 xfdesktop          
 2796 pickens   15   0  2404  944  848 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 gam_server         
 2798 pickens   15   0 14888 3680 3132 S  0.0  0.4   0:00.02 Thunar             
 2803 pickens   15   0 41448  22m  19m S  0.0  2.2   0:04.35 xfce4-panel        
 2804 pickens   15   0 97.9m  32m  26m S  0.0  3.3   0:00.86 gaim               
 2805 pickens   15   0 34356  19m  17m S  0.0  1.9   0:00.16 xfce4-menu-plug    
 2806 pickens   15   0 16692 6576 5076 S  0.0  0.6   0:00.14 xfce4-weather-p    
 2809 pickens   15   0 41816  21m  18m S  0.0  2.1   0:00.14 xfce4-mixer-plu    
 2810 pickens   15   0 23924 8004 6812 S  0.0  0.8   0:00.08 xfce4-xfapplet-    
 2811 pickens   18   0 23928 7880 6748 S  0.0  0.8   0:00.07 xfce4-xfapplet-    
 2821 pickens   18   0  7424 3740 1736 S  0.0  0.4   0:00.32 gconfd-2           
 2823 pickens   15   0 24976  12m 7920 S  0.0  1.3   0:00.24 puplet             
 2829 pickens   18   0 14124 4344 3736 S  0.0  0.4   0:00.01 bluetooth-apple    
 2838 pickens   21   0 16296 2008 1692 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.00 escd               
 2842 pickens   18   0 38520 2556 1964 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.13 bonobo-activati    
 2849 pickens   15   0 75936  23m  19m S  0.0  2.3   0:00.37 gweather-applet    
 2851 pickens   15   0 23912 8216 6428 S  0.0  0.8   0:00.35 multiload-apple    
 2871 pickens   15   0 26960  14m  11m S  0.0  1.4   0:00.19 notification-da    
 2928 pickens   25   0  4448 1068  932 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 firefox            
 2943 pickens   25   0  4452 1076  912 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 run-mozilla.sh     
 2983 pickens   15   0 40364  23m  19m S  0.0  2.3   0:00.25 Terminal           
 2984 pickens   20   0  2324  584  500 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 gnome-pty-helpe    
 2985 pickens   16   0  4504 1384 1152 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.02 bash

Overall, it's a huge improvement, but I still think the 744392k of used RAM is a bit excessive... I could be wrong.

~jp

lazlow · 07-29-2007, 01:51 PM

Well xfc is taking up about 34% of your memory, so I would start there.

Have you compared your memory usage right after a boot?

Edit: You posted while I was typing. IF xfc is a fedora package (I do not know) I would file a bug report for a memory leak.

lazlow · 07-29-2007, 02:01 PM

As far as the memory used: it is tracked differently than in windows. That number includes what is being used in cache/buffers. When the system needs more memory it will swap it back from cache/buffers. When you have a memory leak and some of that gets moved to swap it will usually just stay there.

Edit: Being that it is xfc you might be able to just go out to the CLI (not terminal) and restart X rather than rebooting.

jonrpick · 07-29-2007, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazlow

Well xfc is taking up about 34% of your memory, so I would start there.

Have you compared your memory usage right after a boot?

Edit: You posted while I was typing. IF xfc is a fedora package (I do not know) I would file a bug report for a memory leak.

That's interesting. I chose XFCE over Gnome because it's supposed to be "lightweight" in comparison. I haven't compared yet, but I will.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazlow

As far as the memory used: it is tracked differently than in windows. That number includes what is being used in cache/buffers. When the system needs more memory it will swap it back from cache/buffers. When you have a memory leak and some of that gets moved to swap it will usually just stay there.

Edit: Being that it is xfc you might be able to just go out to the CLI (not terminal) and restart X rather than rebooting.

I knew it was different than with Windows, but just wasn't sure how exactly. Good thought about restarting X, I'll try that next time. I know that Firefox has a memory leak and has for some time. I do have to periodically restart it.

Thanks for the help.

~jp

lazlow · 07-29-2007, 02:20 PM

XFC is lightweight. The version that is on your system appears to have a memory leak (34% memory usage before reboot vs 6% after). File a bug report against XFC.

jiml8 · 07-29-2007, 02:41 PM

Commonly linux will take all your ram. If it is not needed for applications, linux will take it for cache. Therefore having it all in use is not a big deal.

Your swap usage is about 1/3 of the available. I rather doubt this is the problem; running vmstat with a time option (such as vmstat 5) will get you a listing every 5 seconds that will show your paging activity. If you are showing substantial paging activity, then this is slowing you down. If not, then memory/paging isn't the problem.

Could indeed be a memory leak in XFC; might also be XFC caching things (dunno). I can tell you that I am experiencing difficulties with Xorg. I tend to run a large system with a lot going on but Xorg 7.2 is right now taking up 730 Megs of my system. This will grow to about 1.3 Gigs over several days.

Why? I am not sure. Seems to me it has to be a memory leak in Xorg 7.2. It forces me to restart X about once a week just to clean things up.