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Old 08-10-2015, 07:43 AM   #1
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Extract LM 17 iso from RAR and burn to DVD questions


I downloaded Linux Mint 17.2 from here:

http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=190

It took 4 days to download using Slimbrowsers download manager (1.5 G).

I also found a winRAR archive version of LM 17 sitting on my desktop (1.4 G) from a simultaneous download attempt using Chromes download manager Chrono.

It came as an RAR file, which I have no experience with. I need to burn the iso to dvd.

I have installed 7-zip.


I have found the following instructions here:
http://www.ehow.com/how_12005484_convert-7zip-iso.html

"1. go to start, all programs, open 7-zip file manager.

2) click File, Open, and find the location of the iso file...."


QUESTION: I would like to know how to deal with with a RAR file. How do I get the iso out of the RAR? Do I burn the entire RAR to the DVD?

Suggestions appreciated.

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Old 08-10-2015, 08:45 AM   #2
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There are no downloads with .rar extension on the linux mint website you posted. You are doing something terribly wrong, i suggest to not use download managers. Use something simple like wget
 
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Old 08-10-2015, 08:48 AM   #3
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What download site did you select? They all appear to be ISO files so could it be just a file extension association mismatch? Not familiar with slimbrowser so do not know how its download manager works. 1.5GB is the size of the ISO file.
 
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Download from "Primary download mirrors". No RARs, ISO
run don't walk to an ISO from this list.
 
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:22 PM   #5
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Download from "Primary download mirrors". No RARs, ISO
run don't walk to an ISO from this list.
I just went to the site you linked to. (This is where I downloaded the other 2 rar files.)

http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=190

Then I clicked on the first link, south africa, internet solutions.

It opened up the download and gave me the choice of where to save. The file type listed below the file name was "winRAR Archive."

The only other choice under file types is "All files." There is no .iso choice.

Is winRAR capturing these files? Should I uninstal winRAR if I have it installed?

Yes, this may have been the problem. I just uninstalled winRAR then went back to the LM download site and the file type said "Disk image file." In addition, the files I had that said rar now say "disk image file."

I am doing another download just to make sure.

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Old 08-10-2015, 04:31 PM   #6
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If you look at the actual extension for the file you should see that it ends in ".iso" -- I suspect that Windows, or whichever operating system you are using to download it, thinks that the best program to open the ISO file with is WinRAR -- possibly due to WinRAR wanting to associate with that kind of file.
Your browser should give you the option of saving the file -- if it does not then you need to change the settings in your browser to do so.
Once you have the file you then need some software which is capable of burning an ISO file onto a DVD.
 
Old 08-11-2015, 12:57 AM   #7
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If you look at the actual extension for the file you should see that it ends in ".iso" -- I suspect that Windows, or whichever operating system you are using to download it, thinks that the best program to open the ISO file with is WinRAR -- possibly due to WinRAR wanting to associate with that kind of file.
Your browser should give you the option of saving the file -- if it does not then you need to change the settings in your browser to do so.
Once you have the file you then need some software which is capable of burning an ISO file onto a DVD.

Two questions:

1. how do I change settings in Chrome (or another browser) to show more file type options in the save window?

2. since I uninstalled winRAR, the files have been iso but the checksums do not match. they matched when I was saving them as winRAR.

I tried downloading another through Chromes download mgr Chrono but it stops much too soon (at 109 kb) but says it is complete.

I am also downloading again through torrent, that will take about 10 hours.

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Old 08-11-2015, 01:08 AM   #8
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Two questions:

1. how do I change settings in Chrome (or another browser) to show more file type options in the save window?

2. since I uninstalled winRAR, the files have been iso but the checksums do not match. they matched when I was saving them as winRAR.

I tried downloading another through Chromes download mgr Chrono but it stops much too soon (at 109 kb) but says it is complete.

I am also downloading again through torrent, that will take about 10 hours.
1. You probably have to tell Windows (I assume you're doing this under Windows?) what application to open the files with and Chrome will use that -- at least I can't see anywhere in Chrome to change handlers unlike Firefox which gives you a list of file types and handlers.
2. That very much depends upon what you are using to find the checksums and what information that is being given from where as well as whether any program has modified the file for whatever reason. The checksums should match regardless of which application your system thinks it should use to open the file but I have no idea how Windows programs behave.
 
Old 08-11-2015, 08:12 AM   #9
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1. You probably have to tell Windows (I assume you're doing this under Windows?) what application to open the files with and Chrome will use that -- at least I can't see anywhere in Chrome to change handlers unlike Firefox which gives you a list of file types and handlers.
2. That very much depends upon what you are using to find the checksums and what information that is being given from where as well as whether any program has modified the file for whatever reason. The checksums should match regardless of which application your system thinks it should use to open the file but I have no idea how Windows programs behave.
I continue to download LM 17.1 and .2 (whatever I can find) both through Chrome download and torrent. I just started a piratebay download.

As I mentioned I deleted winRAR and since then the files have been coming in as iso.

I see and "info checksum" on the pirate bay site, then I see another checksum which looks like the right one down below.

the checksum on the pirate bay (I am using Slimbrowser to download)

https://thepiratebay.gd/torrent/1210...Cinnamon_amd64

MD5:
b8a0651bb0086519fbf7a70fc12db17e

is the same as on the official linux mint download site (I have been using Chrome)

http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=190:

b8a0651bb0086519fbf7a70fc12db17e

So if I can get this torrent, I think I will have a copy.
 
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Why do you need to download from piratebay?
 
Old 08-11-2015, 09:02 AM   #11
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If you really must have a torrent, go to the official source. I don't know why anyone would go to the Pirate Bay for free software.

On the link you gave to download LM (http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=190) there is a link that reads "Torrent". Download it from there, not TPB.

Also, I'd get a different download manager. Obviously whatever you have is tampering with the file, as LM doesn't host their ISOs using a proprietary format like RAR.

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It took 4 days to download using Slimbrowsers download manager (1.5 G).
Unless you have dialup, this is a really long time to be downloading. Try uninstalling ALL extensions from Chrome or Firefox, and use one of those instead of a no-name browser.

Also, if you must have a download manager, try uGet. It's free, it's open-source, and nobody has tampered with it.
 
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Old 08-12-2015, 08:38 AM   #12
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If you really must have a torrent, go to the official source. ...

On the link you gave to download LM (http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=190) there is a link that reads "Torrent".

correct, I did not see that torrent link until later. My torrent client is qbittorent.

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Also, I'd get a different download manager. Obviously whatever you have is tampering with the file, as LM doesn't host their ISOs using a proprietary format like RAR.
Since I uninstalled winRAR, the files came in as ISO. winRAR was capturing them.

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Unless you have dialup, this is a really long time to be downloading. Try uninstalling ALL extensions from Chrome or Firefox, and use one of those instead of a no-name browser.
Since I am having trouble downloading things, I have trouble downloading a download manager so I can download things. I was trying yesterday 4 or 5 different DL mgrs from 4 or 5 different websites. Using Chrono, a dl mgr for Chrome, the download would stop way before the file was finished. I had to continually restart. I deactivated Chrono.

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Also, if you must have a download manager, try uGet. It's free, it's open-source, and nobody has tampered with it.
Thanks for this reference.

Now I have an iso copy of Linux Mint 17.2 and I have burned it to DVD.

Now I want to install it so I must partition my drive. Is this thread the place to talk about that?

Should I just go into disk manager in Windows and shrink my 500 gb? I need to know how much space to allocate to Linux Mint. The file is 1.5 gb. But I can allocate half the disk to it. I just don't know how these OS's use the disk space beyond their own files.

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correct, I did not see that torrent link until later. My torrent client is qbittorent.



Since I uninstalled winRAR, the files came in as ISO. winRAR was capturing them.



Since I am having trouble downloading things, I have trouble downloading a download manager so I can download things. I was trying yesterday 4 or 5 different DL mgrs from 4 or 5 different websites. Using Chrono, a dl mgr for Chrome, the download would stop way before the file was finished. I had to continually restart. I deactivated Chrono.



Thanks for this reference.

Now I have an iso copy of Linux Mint 17.2 and I have burned it to DVD.

Now I want to install it so I must partition my drive. Is this thread the place to talk about that?

Should I just go into disk manager in Windows and shrink my 500 gb? I need to know how much space to allocate to Linux Mint. The file is 1.5 gb. But I can allocate half the disk to it. I just don't know how these OS's use the disk space beyond their own files.
Mint has it's own partitioner. I would not recommend using the Windows partitioner for 2 reasons:
* It stinks in comparison to Mint's
* I don't think it will let you resize the partition while it's mounted. If it does, you may bork your filesystem.

Also remember a few things:
* The files on the ISO are highly compressed
* You're going to want to install additional software to Mint, like games, browsers, etc.
* You're going to need a swap partition.

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Now I have an iso copy of Linux Mint 17.2 and I have burned it to DVD.

Now I want to install it so I must partition my drive. Is this thread the place to talk about that?

Should I just go into disk manager in Windows and shrink my 500 gb? I need to know how much space to allocate to Linux Mint. The file is 1.5 gb. But I can allocate half the disk to it. I just don't know how these OS's use the disk space beyond their own files.
Run gparted from the LiveCD to manipulate partition sizes.

I'd make 50G'ish for LM, using 3 additional logical volumes.
20 for /
26 for /home
4 for /swap

If the 500 is solely partitioned for Windows, you can use gparted to reduce that to 45G less than what it has now.
/ will likely be identified by the installer as sda2 after a reboot.
/home will likely be identified by the installer as sda3 after a reboot.
/swap will likely be identified by the installer as sda4 after a reboot.

Use "Something else" during the install phase of the LiveCD when it prompts.
and select sda2 as /, sda3 as /home, and sda4 as swap.

What version of Windows?
See also http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=163126

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Old 08-13-2015, 02:09 PM   #15
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Run gparted from the LiveCD to manipulate partition sizes.

I'd make 50G'ish for LM, using 3 additional logical volumes.
20 for /
26 for /home
4 for /swap

If the 500 is solely partitioned for Windows, you can use gparted to reduce that to 45G less than what it has now.
/ will likely be identified by the installer as sda2 after a reboot.
/home will likely be identified by the installer as sda3 after a reboot.
/swap will likely be identified by the installer as sda4 after a reboot.

Use "Something else" during the install phase of the LiveCD when it prompts.
and select sda2 as /, sda3 as /home, and sda4 as swap.

What version of Windows?
See also http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=163126
I just shrank the Windows partition:

Disk0
System Reserved
100 MB

(C:)
279.06 GB NTFS

Unallocated
186.60 GB

I know this contradicts what some people have advised but I did the shrink but to counteract inertia and push ahead. I hope this allocation is not a mistake.

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