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Old 01-06-2007, 11:25 PM   #1
eric11210
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Cannot enter password on mobile link (using jpilot syncmal plugin) any help?


OK, I found the JPilot program. I installed it, I've got in syncing to my Palm. One problem still remains which I have not licked. I was getting an error message:

Check your serial port and settings
Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND
Finished
**** ERROR: No SyncMAL user config found!
Is AvantGo installed and configured on the PDA?

I found after lots of trial and error that you need to go into AvantGo on your Palm and tell it the same server details you set up in the jpilot syncmal plugin. At least I think I do. Because now I get a different error:

Invalid login. Please check your password and try again.

Trouble is, no matter what I do, I cannot get the thing to let me enter a password. I click where it says none, it asks me to enter a password. I enter it and click ok. Then it still says none. I can find no help on the avantgo website about this. Please, please, someone help me figure this out.

Eric

Note: This is an edit of my original post since I'm further along in getting this figured out. But I still have this one final hurdle to make it through. . .

Last edited by eric11210; 01-07-2007 at 03:19 AM.
 
Old 01-08-2007, 10:06 AM   #2
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Take this with a grain of salt, because it was a long time ago that I did this, but it may be that you need to use a different (older) version of the avantgo software on your palm device. I think I remember trying to get a more updated version of avantgo and it wouldn't work, so I had to go back. That was a year or two ago, though.

I though I should suggest a different solution, however. I'm still an avid newsreader on my palm, but I don't use Avantgo. I use sunrise with plucker. Plucker is a document reader, and sunrise will convert html files (and rss feeds) into plucker-readable .pdb files.

Here's the plucker website: http://www.plkr.org/

Here's the sunrise website: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sunrisexp/

Sunrise runs on java, so you'll have to have jre installed.

What I do is I subscribe to various RSS feeds (e.g. http://www.nytimes.com/services/xml/...ernational.xml ). Then there's a little script that you can install (I think nytimes scripts come with the sunrise package) that will change the link in the rss feed to the printer friendly (a.k.a palm friendly) version of the story. Based on this, you can write your own script for other feeds. (Not too difficult, just look at this java page to see how to manipulate the link.uri string object in the script.

I'll post the nytimes script later if you want me to, but I don't have access to it right now.

Plucker is much nicer reading than avantgo was (of course newer versions of the avantgo software might be better).

Plucker and Sunrise are OSS of course.

Hope this helps,
~daveZ
 
Old 01-09-2007, 02:05 AM   #3
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Funny you should mention Plucker. I've been trying to get it working on my system to no avail. I'm not sure why, but it keeps insisting that pilot-xfer is not present even though it is. . .any ideas about it? Also, I saw someone mention that about an older version of the software and was trying to hunt it down, but had no luck. All I could find was the version AvantGo has in the "unsupported" section of their web site. . .I'll keep trying to get plucker working though. I agree, it's probably nicer, 'specially since I could theoretically get it to do everything, not just specially formated AvantGo sites.

Eric
 
Old 01-09-2007, 11:59 AM   #4
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I also used to have trouble getting plucker-desktop to work for the exact same reason. I found that the pilot-xfer *does* work from the command line, however, and so I just wrote a simple script to transfer plucker files to the palm. I'm at work so it's not available to me right now. But I'll post the script if you want me to. (Someday I'll write a script that runs on a cron job, so I don't have to invoke a GUI at all, but that'll be a while down the road).

I don't use plucker-desktop anymore, though. I use the aforementioned Sunrise as the desktop GUI for plucker. I've found that Sunrise is better since it does a good job at reading RSS (blogs and such) and because you can run java scripts to change the url's to printer friendly pages for news sites. ~daveZ
 
Old 01-09-2007, 08:01 PM   #5
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my scripts

Sorry, I take that back. I don't use pilot-xfer, I use gpilot commands. Here's the script that takes a directory containing .pdb files and sets it so that it will install onto the palm the next time it is synchronized.

Code:
#/bin/bash

gpilot-install-file --later /home/dave/MyPilot/sunrise/*.pdb
Pretty simple.

Also, here are scripts you would use with Sunrise to change the links:
Code:
document.onanchorlink = function(link) {
        if (link.depth == 1) {
                // Append "printable version" parameter to query string
                link.uri += "&pagewanted=print";
        }
};
Hope this helps.
~daveZ
I'm pretty sure that is included with sunrise.

I also do BBC:

Code:
document.onanchorlink = function(link) {
        if (link.depth == 1) {
                // Append "printable version" parameter to query string
		link.uri = link.uri.replace("http://","http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/");                
        }
};
 
Old 01-09-2007, 11:46 PM   #6
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Thanks for the script. One more question though. I downloaded Sunrise. I cannot make heads or tails of how it works and the author seems to have zapped whatever documentation he had on it. From reading the FAQs using the way back machine, I gather that he intended to not continue support for it since he wanted to build some kind of commercial product. Could you kind of give me a basic once over of how to use Sunrise? Like I said, I downloaded it. I was able to run the script which starts sunrise desktop and that's about the beginning and end of what I figured out how to do with it.

Sorry to be such a bother about it. . .

Eric
 
Old 01-10-2007, 07:55 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eric11210
Sorry to be such a bother about it. . .
No worries. This is what LQ is for.

So you are actually getting Sunrise up so it's displaying on your screen, right?

Assuming yes, it should be relatively easy to do work things. You need to put in a RSS feed url.

Nytimes RSS feeds, for instance, are listed here:

http://www.nytimes.com/services/xml/rss/index.html

You'll need to copy the url of the feed that you want into Sunrise.

Let's say your interested in international news, you would probably choose this:

http://www.nytimes.com/services/xml/...ernational.xml

So in Sunrise you make a "new document" and then go through the preferences. You'll want to have a depth of 1 (so that it grabs the pages that are linked in the RSS file).

You'll want to choose the output .pdb file to whatever directory you'll be collecting this stuff in. (You can also set this by default somewhere... sorry. Doing all this from memory.)

Then on the -- I think -- advanced tab, there will be a place for scripts. You can use the script I gave you to make sure that the links are rewritten to the printer friendly pages. The first script I listed is the one you want for the NY times. I forgot to mention that when I wrote that post.

Then save the settings and close that window. You should see this new "document" reflected on sunrise. You can highlight it and click update and it should go grab the feed and create your .pdb file.

Ciao,
~daveZ

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Old 01-10-2007, 09:26 AM   #8
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Thanks. I thought I was just missing something obvious. You see the trouble is that Sunrise starts up with no "lists." Apparently, you have to create a new lisr first, then create your news feeds. I was just starting out trying to enter news feeds and wondering what was going on. . .I don't have time to play with it right now, but I'll let you know what my results end up like soon.

Thanks again for all your help.

Eric
 
  


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