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Old 04-21-2003, 12:40 PM   #1
jonconley
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EMail Migration from Novell Groupwise to Linux Mailserver


I was hoping to migrate from older Novell Groupwise to a mailserver that would work on linux. There are really 3 requirements only:
1] Outlook Compatible (IMAP4, etc)
2] WebMail ability (not needed if IMAP4, b/c SquirrelMail should work)
3] Ability to migrate mailboxes from Novell Groupwise.


I am relatively new to linux, but I have no problem sticking it out. The thing it, I need to know what the hell to do before I get started. So does ANYONE know of a tutorial, whitepaper, or program that discusses migration from Novell Groupwise to any good linux-compatible mailserver that meets the 3 above requirements.

Real quick question, I know there are alot of MS Exchange migration to linux options, any suggested ones??? B/C if no direct to linux mailserver for groupwise, I could migrate groupwise -> exchange -> linux (ex. OpenExchange)

TIA,
Conley
 
Old 04-21-2003, 01:07 PM   #2
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the two programs that we used in work was

qmail and courier-imap

and squirrel for webbased email

install servers this link will take you through setting up the servers

good luck


ps if anyone knows how to migrate accounts from Nowell (whoops novell) please post.....thats the part we need to do in work as well
 
Old 04-21-2003, 01:57 PM   #3
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I use Courier IMAP with SquirrelMail on my server, works fine. No idea about Novell, sorry
 
Old 04-21-2003, 03:34 PM   #4
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I use Postfix and SquirrelMail. I also have no idea how to truly "migrate" a Novell environment into a linux solution. Unless you want to wait a year, and upgrade to linux based Netware 7, then migrate lol
 
Old 04-21-2003, 09:28 PM   #5
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Thanks for everyones input so far. And yeah, I been reading that and unfortunately it seems like I will have to either use Exchange as a middle man or wait til 7
 
Old 04-22-2003, 04:09 AM   #6
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As a coleague of grahamj we are facing a similar problem and the only solution that I can come up with is to write a script that will be a go between for Novell and courier.

The user will be presented with 4 boxes to fill:
username and password for Novell
username and password for Courier

The script will connect to both mail boxes and copy the data from Novell to courier.

I have tested the theory using my local mail client (Mozilla) and I am able to copy messages. The next task will be to create the script to automate the process.
 
Old 05-02-2003, 10:41 AM   #7
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david_ross: just wondering if you had any success with your scripted tranfers. It looks like we will have to do te same thing on our site xfer (UW -> courier).
 
Old 05-02-2003, 12:54 PM   #8
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I'm affraid I haven't had time yet - I have been out of the office all day and spent today installing LDAD for the server authentication. Hopefully I will be finished that next week and will be ready to do the scripting at the end of the month after I have converted all of our intranet site from HTML to SHTML and completed developing the new menuing system.

I'll post it if I get the script written. I hope someone else will to if they beat me to it
 
Old 05-02-2003, 01:03 PM   #9
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Depending on the number of users you may be able to talk them trough doing it manually with their mail clients (or do it manually yourself).

mcleodnine - I'm not sure there is much difference between the folder layouts for courier and UW. You may be able to do it using something on the serverside that doesn't even use the imap protocol by just renaming the folders.
 
Old 05-02-2003, 01:22 PM   #10
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The one thing I always critise people for is not looking for informaion before they post. I've just done it myself.

Someone seems to have beaten me by about a year in writing exactly what we want.

I obviously haven't tried it yet but if any of you are ready to start your migration before me I'd be interested to know what you think of this:
http://migrationtool.sourceforge.net/

The only difference between their reason and ours is that they wanted to move the information in the wrong direction
 
Old 05-02-2003, 05:07 PM   #11
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Interesting. I like the idea of a shell script that will let me migrate at a time of the admins choosing. I need to have this stuff setup for this coming monday no matter what so I'll post here with updates.

I Googled for this before and found a few interesting scripts, but none seemed to fit the bill. This onel looks good.
 
Old 05-02-2003, 05:16 PM   #12
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Monday!!!
That sounds like a microsoft deadline:
Bill Gates: "I want it ready by Monday whether it is ready or not!!! I didn't spend $500,000,000 on advertising for a product that wasn't finished."

mmm - look what he got!

Good luck. If you have any problems I'll try to help - I'm quite good at hacking code about if it doesn't work as expected. Admittedly though - I'm better with perl than PHP.
 
Old 05-02-2003, 05:31 PM   #13
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well this has been in the pipe for quite a while now. the deadline is self-imposed as I just want to get it off the to-do list. If I can't get this stuff to play nice then I'll fall back to the UW/postfix setup. The shuffle is happening either way as we are making some hardware and location changes.
 
  


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