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Old 05-07-2008, 11:52 AM   #16
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Thanks for the further clarifications unSpawn & billymayday.
It looks like a project for the weekend!
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I had a glance through this, and may well have missed bits. Here's my 2c

All you need to do is set up the server (it will take no time), then start kmail so that it has the native kmail emails in one account and set up another imap account from withing kmail (at least that's what you'd do in most mail clients - I don't use kmail). Then drag and drop your kmail inbox across to the imap account. Done for kmail. Repeat for Evolution, etc. How easy is that?

Won't solve mess within kmail, etc., but you can work on that separately.

Use a conversion utility for mbox to maildir where appropriate and you're most of the way there.

Use fetchmail to collect emails from your ISP's pop(s) account in future.

mbox to maildir is exactly the kind of util I'm looking for. If I can get it all into one mail type then conversion is easy. To do it the way you explain means I would first wipe the idx files from Kmail for each of dozens of entries. After wiping the idx files I restart Kmail, then drag at least 30 gigs (current dir has over 5 gigs with almost all of it still tar balled and only about a third of it moved online so far. So I'm figuring about 15 gigs of compressed mail with at least a 2 to 1 compression ratio. Expecting about 50 gigs of uncompressed mail before I'm done.) email one backup at a time to the IMAP server. Then wipe the dir and do it all over again for each of the multiple backups which I have for that client. Then I do the same thing which each successive client. That still leaves the Outbreak files undone, though I think Evolution can import those. That is after I convert those I need too to the mail dir format.

Seems a whole lot simpler to me to write a quick bash script that walks the dir structure of each backup converting them with tools like the mbox to mail dir that you mentioned. I could run it over night and probaly wake up to most of the email converted if such a tool exists. Then import them into the client of choice or even multiple clients.

Doesn't Fetchmail still store your password in clear text? I used to use it but always found that annoying. Would love to scoop up mail as a cron job with Fetchmail. I just don't like leaving my password sitting on my HD in clear text. Not especially fond of sending it in clear text to a POP 3 server either. Haven't found out a way around that though

Actually that would be far more pain than converting the email. Let me see if I can clarify the mess of email I have a bit better.

Summery of backups I've copied to the drive so far.
At least 30 different Kmail backups of which at least 20 have some unique email I am interested in reading.

Several Eudora backups mostly dating from the mid 90s.

at least 7 Outlook PST files dating mostly from the late 90s but a few from the 00s.
at least 3 Outlook CSV email files from same time span.

At least 5 Netscape mail backups from the mid 90s to early 00s.

At least 5 Thunderbird backups from the 00s.

At least 4 Evolution backups dating mostly in the 02 to 05 time span.

Hundreds of email in pure text and BBS formats.

That is about a third of the backups I expect to have. I may also find formats from software I forgot I ever used. All of these may contain unique emails that I wish to save so I have to pull every one of them in.

I don't have Eudora any more. So it would be rather difficult to set that client up. I could probably try to use Wine or another emulator and find the most recent version or cross compile it to Linux. The newest versions of Eudora may well have IMAP support but IMAP didn't exist when I made those backups and I am not sure if Eudora supports email boxes going that far back.

I do not have and do not want to set up outbreak I mean outlook on my machine. I have numerous archives created with various versions of Outlook from client locations and other places I've worked. Again no client to move the mail and setting up Outbreak on my machine is a security risk I'd like to avoid if at all possible and not something I'm willing to do long term.

I don't have one but dozens of Kmail backups. Some are are just increments but many are from different machines and or locations. For example one place I worked I had 2 onsite emails, one an Evolution so that I could talk to the Exchange server, the other was first Netscape, then Kmail which talked to three different servers. Then I had my server offsite and a home Kmail archive of personal email. So just for that 7 year period I have about 20 backups to merge from three different clients.

As such I would need a dozen machines each running Kmail for each of those or to do as suggested above to merge the Kmail boxes down to one machine. Same with the Netscape, Evolution and Thunderbird archives.

On top of that I have various emails from the BBS days and early days of Usenet saved off as plain text files that I need to also import. There is no client for those. No chance of IMAP support. I am going to have to programatically import those or format them to a format Kmail or Thunderbird will accept.

Next once I trim the dups, spam and obsolete mail it's going back on a CD for backup purposes. If I get squeezed for space which happens frequently I may have to move it offline completely. Which is why I have so many scattered backups in the first place. I am usually low on disk space and keep current email on the server, usually web based providers. I have gigs of email and I suspect when I'm done I'll still have at least a gig of email not counting attachments. I currently have about 2 terrabytes of space right now but it's filling up fast. (I'm a musician and multi-track recording eats up disk space in a hurry.)

Thank you for the suggestions I understand what your saying and if I had one backup of each, that might be more practical. IMAP is going to be far more of a pain than conversion. Of the
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