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Old 05-05-2003, 05:22 AM   #1
Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Brissle, England
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:eek: X problems!!

Hi again all,

I've got rid of AOL, and am looking to replace windows completely on my slow internet pc.

This is all on a P2 266 with Mandrake 8

In KDE (KPackage): I installed (I think) "glibc-debug-2.3.2-2mdk.i586.rpm" and "zlib-devel-1.1.3-11mdk.i586.rpm". They wanted some dependancies I couldn't be arsed to find, so I installed them with the ignore dependancies option.

Once installed, I tried to install another RPM, but starting KPackage gave me an error of "Cannot start KPackage".

Odd I thought. I rebooted, and tried to get into X with "startx".

The monitor changes resolution, and a blue screen with the busy mouse cursor in the centre appears. After about a second or two, it resets back to bash.

There is no visible error message there, and the last thing i don't understand is "using vt 7".

I've uploaded my XFree86.0.log file to here, but as far as I can see there seems to be no problem there.

Help anyone!

Thanks in advance
Old 05-05-2003, 07:06 AM   #2
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Distribution: Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat/CentOS
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Well, somehow you hosed X. try running


Although my thought is this will not work as you have forced a package that X relies on and broke it. The dependencies warning is not a bug - it is there to tell you: "look master, I have found a possible problem if you go headlong into this". You should try to resolve deps whenever possible unless you know for a fact that the computer is wrong and you will be fine. You could also try to uninstall those new pkgs and then mount your cd and replace them with the orig ones. That could be tough though and may not fix what is ailing your computer. I would back up all important info and reinstall.

and the last thing i don't understand is "using vt 7".
vt7 is virtual terminal 7. It is usually where your particular x session resides. However since you broke X you are in a bash shell in vt7
Also, looking at your X.log is hard because I don't know your hardware.
Old 05-05-2003, 11:21 AM   #3
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I would say that your best chance is to attempt to reverse the installation of the glibc-debug-2.3.2-2mdk.i586.rpm file. This file contains the extremely important glibc libraries. If you replaced a previous glibc installation with nodeps, I am not surpised that your system isn't doing what you expect.

Attempt to locate the original glibc package for your system on your distro cds, and install that. You will have to force rpm to install that, and I wouldn't expect a perfectly neat system after that.

Moral of the story (please don't take offense, I don't mean any):
nodeps is not your friend. Dependency checking is there to keep your system working - it should not be treated as a trivial annoyance! Ignoring dependecy data on something as important as glibc will break things.
Old 05-05-2003, 12:22 PM   #4
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I could swear I replied to this topic...

Anyway, yes I know, I was stupid.

I've reinstalled now, as it was easier in the long run. Thanks for the posts


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