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Old 05-20-2009, 12:34 AM   #1
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DVD .iso backup issue


Hi guys.

First of all - I am NOT trying to pull anything illegal. Just wanna be clear about that. I have a legitimate problem here and it's getting annoying.

Yesterday, I went out and bought a game that came on 2 DVD's. I was able to get the game to install and run under WINE, but it crashes and I haven't been able to figure out why. Plus, there's a complicated sound issue which I'm not sure I'll be able to address.

So, I go to Windows - which can see Disc 2 fine, but Disc one just sits there forever trying to be read. Finally it will, but when I try to copy files or install, the installer kicks in and hangs up - and locks the optical drive down until I reboot.

So, what I tried to do is create an .iso of Disc 1, then I am free to burn it or mount it with Daemon Tools. K3B made an .iso and I burned it - the installer recognized that it was a backup disc. I mount it with Daemon Tools - the installer has a "conflict" with emulator software...

At this point, I figure - ok, DD has GOT to be able to copy this thing. So, I do an if/of of /dev/cdrom and create a file which I happen to give an .iso extension. This, obviously, is not an iso-9660 image but whatever. I try to burn it with K3B and ISO Master and they both have fits because it's not a true iso9660 image.

I couldn't figure out how to get DD to burn a dvd, so I used GrowISOFS - and it began writing. Everything finished and then I put the dvd back in the drive to see what would happen. I could hear the drive searching for content - and it wouldn't stop.

Does anybody have any suggestions?
 
Old 05-20-2009, 08:24 PM   #2
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I've never been sure whether dd is suitable for copying optical media or not. I've always gotten the sense there might be some problems. Assuming you are running a GUI on Fedora, when you put the disk in the drive, does an option come up for you to copy it or make an iso? I've never done it with a DVD, but I have seen that option for CDs come up in Ubuntu.


It is also possible the game manufacturer has done something to make it difficult to copy the disk. Have you looked into the possibility there might be more than one track on the disk? (My understanding is that when you record an iso image to CD/DVD, it is all one track.) There are several "iso commands" you might try running with your DVD drive specied as the "image file": isodump, isoinfo, isosize, and isovfy.
 
Old 05-21-2009, 12:06 AM   #3
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Well, DD makes bit-for-bit copies of everything.

There has to be a way of burning that to a DVD.
 
Old 05-21-2009, 12:16 AM   #4
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Hi,
My computer is on f10-i686-Live installed on a HD and remade to desktop.
RE: Wine emulator
The very idea of getting this emulator on your PC is not entirely brilliant. I run it twice and twice crashed. The XP windows (I suppose you use) as emulator does not have the full abilities of the original operation system. The first time it sent the HP OEM setup in the dimension X, and the second time it was the sound track of the system. I uninstalled Wine and reinstalled f10 without installing Wine and have no problems. I do not say that Wine is causing your problem with the DVD. I am just sharing my experience. Everything that you can do with Wine you can do without Wine. Just look for the appropriate packages in the package installer.

RE: The DVD backup
The very ideal of making Backup of the System-Live DVD is great. Can you understand how they are doing this.
Regards.
 
Old 05-21-2009, 12:59 AM   #5
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I think you misunderstand.

I ripped the DVD using DD on Fedora 9. I then copied that image to a Windows XP environment. I then used a program called "Daemon Tools" to mount the image to a "virtual" optical drive because XP is stupid and can't mount anything - pretty much ever.

The game software recognized Daemon Tools as an emulator.

The problems you are having with WINE are specific to your system/configuration. WINE does not prevent Windows XP from reading DVDs. In fact WINE works in this case. XP does not.


Anybody have any ideas? Anyone who knows what a computer is?
 
Old 05-21-2009, 06:15 AM   #6
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Anyone who knows what a computer is?
Now that's a good way to solicit help!
 
Old 05-21-2009, 10:27 AM   #7
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So basically this is a question about Window$ on a Linux forum. Either way, let's say it's wine you need help with.

What game is it ?

BTW, ever heard of copy protection and DRM ? You can't just image a game DVD, burn it on a DVD-R, put it in the drive and expect it to work.
 
Old 05-21-2009, 11:12 PM   #8
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Now that's a good way to solicit help!
And people who think I'm trying to get WINE to run on XP have no business practicing their English by trying to help people with technical problems. That's what Outsourcing is for.

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So basically this is a question about Window$ on a Linux forum. Either way, let's say it's wine you need help with.
No, it was about writing images created with DD to a DVD. On linux.

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What game is it ?
Oblivion Game of the Year Edition.

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BTW, ever heard of copy protection and DRM? You can't just image a game DVD, burn it on a DVD-R, put it in the drive and expect it to work.
Yes. That's why I tried DD. Because it copies Everything. Including the DRM. Which would be nice if I could get around.
 
Old 05-22-2009, 02:09 AM   #9
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And people who think I'm trying to get WINE to run on XP have no business practicing their English by trying to help people with technical problems. That's what Outsourcing is for.
No business? Who are you to decide? This is a help forum, anyone is free to give their input as they see fit. If a post doesn't help you, ignore it and move on.
There's no call to insult anyone.
 
Old 05-22-2009, 05:15 AM   #10
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Oblivion Game of the Year Edition.
I know this game works almost perfectly through wine (I would rate it platinum, but you still need some hacks to get it to work, so just gold), I ran it just a few weeks ago. You need a wine version less than or equal to 1.1.19.

Here's my review of it, if you follow it, I think it will work just fine:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...estingId=39482

You can also see here:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...rsion&iId=7870

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Yes. That's why I tried DD. Because it copies Everything. Including the DRM. Which would be nice if I could get around.
No, not even dd copies everything, there is a part of the DVD that is not normally accessible and is not copied by dd.

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