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Old 09-06-2010, 09:58 AM   #1
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Dovecot depends on gnomemeeting?


I am trying to upgrade the version of dovecot on a rarely-maintained Debian machine with which I almost never have problems (ain't Linux wonderful?). The current version is 1.0.rc15-2, and I think the latest version is 1.2 something, but the point is that I want to be able to use the pigeonhole sieve plugin.

Anyway, when I try to "apt-get install dovecot-imapd dovecot-pop3d", it gets to this:
Quote:
Err http://debian.lcs.mit.edu etch/main gnomemeeting 2.0.3-6
404 Not Found
Failed to fetch http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/poo....0.3-6_all.deb 404 Not Found
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
So, this leads to two issues:
1. If I ever even wanted gnomemeeting on this machine, which is a server that doesn't even have a GUI on it, what repository am I missing?
2. Obviously, though, I don't want gnomemeeting on this machine anyway. Why in the world would a Mail User Agent like dovecot depend on having a "H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client"?

I don't get this at all. Do I really need gnomemeeting? And, if not, how do I tell it to install anyway? How did dovecot come to depend on this?

TIA,
Allen
 
Old 09-06-2010, 01:34 PM   #2
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404 Not Found : Debian Etch was moved to an "archive" some months ago.
https://www.securehost.com/mirror/debian/

gnomemeeting : Doesn't matter, is a dummy package, hence "all.deb".
https://www.securehost.com/mirror/de.../main/e/ekiga/
>> gnomemeeting_2.0.3-6_all.deb : 139 kB → a few text files.

(You can safely remove (I guess) /usr/bin/gnomemeeting:gnomemeeting-config-tool
(total 376 B ). And /usr/share/doc/gnomemeeting/* : 138kB NEWS, Changelog.)
....

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Old 09-06-2010, 08:36 PM   #3
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Hey, thanks for the reply! So, what does this mean for my ability (or lack thereof) to upgrade dovecot to where I can use sieve?

I work daily on a machine that I keep up-to-date on a "real-time" basis, and this dovecot machine in question is 60 miles away in a colo space that provides me with a public internet presence (just my own personal thing, no big web portal or anything; primarily, an email server for me and an ftp site to share stuff with friends). It doesn't get "touched" very much, and when it does, it's strictly a putty/ssh command line interface. The last time I upgraded the OS it went down and was down a week before I could go over there in person and get access into the space to get it back up. Therefore, it is only with fear and trepidation that I would do this (I am a firm believer in the old engineering adage "if it works, don't fix it").

So, since etch has moved off to archive, does this mean I need to update the whole machine? If not, how do I go about getting the latest dovecot version? If so, can you give me a 25-word or less outline as to the best way to do this; or, alternatively, just confirm this:

1. apt-get update (BTW, I had done this before, in the middle of trying to get this dovecot thing to work)
2. apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade (what's the difference in these two? I've never fathomed it; something about "smart conflict resolution", whatever that means;-)

That really should be it, right? Except it has every possibility of knocking the machine off the air...

Are there any steps I can add to this to make it more "gradual", or to evaluate intermediate steps instead of doing the whole big bang??

Also, I still do not understand the gnomemeeting dependency. Why would dovecot be dependent on a dummy package?

Again, thanks for all the help!

Allen
 
Old 09-07-2010, 06:02 AM   #4
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First : I don't know any of the applications in question.

Update : When Debian Etch was moved to an "old archive"
it's because of 'End of life' : No new updates.

Upgrade / Dist upgrade : I never did that either.
( Is done by adding the "Lenny repo" to /etc/apt/sources.list , like :
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free , etc. etc.)


If you want a new version of dovecot for Etch : Probably build it manually,
--prefix=/usr .

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Last edited by knudfl; 09-07-2010 at 08:58 AM.
 
Old 09-07-2010, 08:33 AM   #5
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[RESOLVED (Sort of)] Dovecot depends on gnomemeeting?

Thanks for the reply (again)! Well, here's where I've gotten to:

Until I've researched the upgrade steps enough to be confident I can do it remotely, I've temporarily done this:

Get rid of explicit references to etch in sources.list and replace with stable or testing. Then,
Quote:
apt-get install dovecot-imapd/testing dovecot-pop3d/testing
and, after tweaking ssl_disable and mail_extra_groups in the dovecot config file (i. e., commenting them out), all works with imap. Haven't checked pop3.

Any further insights regarding the upgrade would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 
  


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