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riki · 06-04-2010, 08:46 AM

Can anybody recommend (or know of) a Linux distro that will play sound on a Samsung Q1 Tablet PC 2005 Edition? 2009.1 versions of Mandriva and PCLOS have no audio issues but all new versions will not play sound. I've tried Ubuntu, Mint, Suse amongst others including Jollycloud Pre-Final which is supposed to be designed especially for notebooks. None of them play audio. Assistance to overcome this hurdle would be much appreciated.

I should add that I have spent hours and hours (days!) trying to find a fix without any success. So I am not interested in any more checks. I just want a distro that will work out of the box.

pixellany · 06-04-2010, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riki

Can anybody recommend (or know of) a Linux distro that will play sound on a Samsung Q1 Tablet PC 2005 Edition?

All of them..

The point is that, for any distro, you sometimes have to configure things.

The first step is to see if a driver is installed for your sound device:
In a terminal:
To identify the device, enter "lspci"
In my case, I have this:

Quote:

00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)

Then, this tells me if a driver is installed:
lsmod | grep via
(Several tries may be required to narrow it down---In my case, the driver is "snd_via82xx")

riki · 06-04-2010, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixellany

All of them..

The point is that, for any distro, you sometimes have to configure things.

The first step is to see if a driver is installed for your sound device:
In a terminal:
To identify the device, enter "lspci"
In my case, I have this:

Then, this tells me if a driver is installed:
lsmod | grep via
(Several tries may be required to narrow it down---In my case, the driver is "snd_via82xx")

Appreciate you coming in Pixellany. What you suggest has already been carried but it doesn't get me anywhere. Both my sound card and its driver are identified and they work with older (no longer supported) distros. Newer ones like Ubuntu 10.04, Mandriva 2010.1, Fedora-13, etc. do not recognize my sound card. Could it be a kernel issue? Thanks for your time.

evo2 · 06-04-2010, 07:19 PM

Please post the lspci output as requested by pixellany. No one can help you if you don't say what the device is (other than people who have the exact same "Samsung Q1 Tablet PC 2005 Edition").

Evo2.

brucehinrichs · 06-04-2010, 07:34 PM

Quote:

So I am not interested in any more checks. I just want a distro that will work out of the box.

@evo2: OP has stated he doesn't want help.

@riki: Try the top 100 list at distrowatch until you find one that works.

Some people like to shoot flies with shotguns...

evo2 · 06-04-2010, 08:50 PM

Well, how the f$%k are we supposed to know if it will work if we don't know what the hardware is?

Evo2.

riki · 06-05-2010, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evo2

Please post the lspci output as requested by pixellany. No one can help you if you don't say what the device is (other than people who have the exact same "Samsung Q1 Tablet PC 2005 Edition").

Evo2.

Sorry...I'll have another go. Here it is:

riki@riki-laptop:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d3)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 14)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
06:09.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 81

Thanks for assistance. BTW the driver is snd-hda-intel

riki · 06-05-2010, 01:46 AM

And here is the lsmod output:

riki@riki-laptop:~$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
binfmt_misc 6587 1
rfcomm 33421 4
sco 7885 2
snd_hda_codec_analog 58566 1
ppdev 5259 0
bridge 45582 0
stp 1655 1 bridge
bnep 9436 2
l2cap 30624 16 rfcomm,bnep
fbcon 35102 71
tileblit 2031 1 fbcon
font 7557 1 fbcon
bitblit 4707 1 fbcon
softcursor 1189 1 bitblit
vga16fb 11385 0
vgastate 8961 1 vga16fb
arc4 1153 2
snd_hda_intel 21877 1
snd_hda_codec 74201 2 snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 5412 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm_oss 35308 0
snd_mixer_oss 13746 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 70662 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 1338 0
snd_seq_oss 26726 0
snd_seq_midi 4557 0
snd_rawmidi 19056 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 6003 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 47263 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
pcmcia 33024 0
snd_timer 19098 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 5700 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
ath5k 121792 0
yenta_socket 20408 1
mac80211 204922 1 ath5k
i915 282354 3
snd 54148 14 snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq _oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
ath 7611 1 ath5k
rsrc_nonstatic 10015 1 yenta_socket
drm_kms_helper 29297 1 i915
usb_storage 39425 0
cfg80211 126485 3 ath5k,mac80211,ath
intel_agp 24177 2 i915
btusb 10925 2
bluetooth 49892 9 rfcomm,sco,bnep,l2cap,btusb
pcmcia_core 32964 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
joydev 8708 0
drm 162471 4 i915,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit 5028 1 i915
soundcore 6620 1 snd
led_class 2864 1 ath5k
agpgart 31724 2 intel_agp,drm
video 17375 1 i915
output 1871 1 video
snd_page_alloc 7076 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
lp 7028 0
parport 32635 2 ppdev,lp
usbhid 36110 0
hid 67032 1 usbhid
sky2 40775 0

riki · 06-05-2010, 04:13 AM

Guys, I think I've nailed it. It's definitely a kernel issue and I am not the only one from what I read elsewhere. Prior to kernel 2.6.28 audio works on this Samsung Q1 Tablet PC. Any kernels from 2.6.28 onwards will not recognize my sound card and therefore won't play sound no matter what. I've proved it running different livecds (Suse, Mandriva, PCLOS, etc.) with kernels 2.6.25, 2.6.27, etc., all with audio. End of story. Now, how can I use/import a suitable kernel for new distros so that it will recognize my sound card on this Q1? I've looked in synaptic (several distros) and only the latest kernels are available. Q1 (bought 2006) obsolete? Hope not! Any comments most welcome.

Pluribootent · 06-05-2010, 05:10 AM

I would check your kernel configuration, but I cant really believe the module you need for your devise isnt already in a stock kernel.

Code:

Device Drivers  --->
<M> Sound card support  --->
<M>   Advanced Linux Sound Architecture  --->

assuming:[*]   PCI sound devices  --->
<M>   Intel HD Audio  --->

I doubt its your kernel - you could check for differences between the old (working) ones and the newer ones, and post the differences

//edit: I beliebe thats your driver: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/ind...odule-intel8x0

Pluribootent · 06-05-2010, 05:16 AM

Maybe its Pulseaudio. Pulseaudio came into the distros around after kernel 2.6.26, if Im not completely mistaken. Check the pulseaudio configuration,too. (lucky guess)

evo2 · 06-05-2010, 05:41 AM

It's my understanding that the snd-intel8x0m driver is required for this device. This driver does not seem to be in your lsmod output.

Evo2.

Pluribootent · 06-05-2010, 05:45 AM

stating the obvious:
you did run

Code:

alsaconf

?

pixellany · 06-05-2010, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riki

Guys, I think I've nailed it. It's definitely a kernel issue and I am not the only one from what I read elsewhere.

Please post any relevant links saying that "it is a kernel issue". (my hunch is that it is not....)

My laptop has the Intel 82801H controller, and it works fine with the "snd-hda-intel" driver.
Kernel 2.6.33
Arch Linux 64-bit
Alsa

riki · 06-06-2010, 02:28 AM

Thank you all for your response. I have finally been offered, via forum, the fix to play sound with PCLOS2010.1.

The fix:

Edit as root /etc/modprobe.d

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd_hda_intel index=1
options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd

I haven't tried with other distros that will not play sound e.g. Ubuntu10.04, Fedora-13, Jollycloud, Mint, Suse, etc.