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Old 02-08-2013, 06:18 AM   #1
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Disk space and partition for ubuntu installation:Diskmanagement win7


Hi,
I have win7. I am using its diskmanagement tool to create a partition for ubuntu installation. Kindly guide me how much space i have to shrinlk from c: drive.
Right now i am getting this when i am running diskmanagement tool:

Disk 0

Basic

698.64GB

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System

199 MB NTFS

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C:

673.58 GB NTFS

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Recovery (D)

20.98GB

NTFS

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vendorname_TOOLS(E

3.97GB FAT32



And when i right click on c: and pressed shrink it showed me:

Total size before shrink in MB=689746

Size of available shrink space in MB=330638

Enter the amount to shrink = 330638 (can be edited)

Total size after shrink in MB: 359108



For installing Ubuntu What value should i provide ? I would like to keep all the partition i.e (c, d, e) and create a new partition f for ubuntu. How will i create this partition?



Kindly guide me.

Thanks for your attention.

Zulfi.
 
Old 02-08-2013, 06:33 AM   #2
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Depends on how much SW you install, but I'd assume 5 - 10 GB for the OS, plus some data space plus swap eg 1 x RAM.
 
Old 02-08-2013, 01:47 PM   #3
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Windows 7 will shrink a partition upto half of its original partition size.
How much free space is on your C drive?
Also which of the partitions is the extended partition? As you show 4 partitions, which is the maximum amount of primary partitions on a hdd.
 
Old 02-09-2013, 11:56 AM   #4
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
I have 623GB of free space and 50.4GB of used space.
Sorry i dont understand extended partition. I got this from a website about extended partition:

Quote:
The partition table has room for only four partitions. For more partitions, one of these four partitions can be divided into many smaller partitions, called logical partitions. The original four are then called primary partitions. If a primary partition is subdivided in this way, it is known as an extended primary or extended partition.


In this context i have only three partitions and i want to create an extended partition in C of size 330638 which is equal to the size of shrink space. Will it be fine for Ubuntu??
Quote:
As you show 4 partitions, which is the maximum amount of primary partitions on a hdd
I dont know if system is a separate partiion or not becuse it is not assigned any drive letter. C has the maximum amount of disk space of 673GB.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:44 PM   #5
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Partition 1
Quote:
System 199 MB NTFS
Partition 2
Quote:
C: 673.58 GB NTFS
Partition 3
Quote:
Recovery (D) 20.98GB NTFS
Partition 4
Quote:
vendorname_TOOLS(E 3.97GB FAT32
You should be able to see if any of the partitions are extended partitions using windows disk management.
 
Old 02-10-2013, 12:38 AM   #6
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I cant see the word "extended" in the layout, filesystem and Type columns.
Zulfi.
 
Old 02-10-2013, 12:55 AM   #7
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It would be helpful if you maximize your diskmanagement tool and do a printscreen and upload that so we can see which one are extended and which ones are logical. But I strongly recommend that you backup your important data before you DO ANYTHING.
 
Old 02-10-2013, 03:15 AM   #8
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Hi,
Plz see the attached.

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Old 02-10-2013, 08:24 AM   #9
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No extended partitions there you gave a few options.
Either remove 1 of the other partitions or install linux on external hdd.
 
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You are using Windows' dynamic partitions (somewhat like Microsoft's LVM). Currently it is not possible to install Linux on disks partitioned that way. You either have to totally re-partition the disk and make a fresh install of Windows after that or you use an external disk or a VM to run Linux.

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Old 02-10-2013, 08:26 PM   #11
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You are using a Windows' dynamic partitions (somewhat like Microsoft's LVM). Currently it is not possible to install Linux on disks partitioned that way. You either have to totally re-partition the disk and make a fresh install of Windows after that or you use an external disk or a VM to run Linux.
I remember you replying to a similar situation about dynamic disk & wanted to comment but until I deal with a dynamic disk situation I am slow to comment on it. My question now would be can the OP create startup disks & use them on a regular msdos MBR drive?

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Old 02-11-2013, 05:36 AM   #12
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I remember you replying to a similar situation about dynamic disk & wanted to comment but until I deal with a dynamic disk situation I am slow to comment on it. My question now would be can the OP create startup disks & use them on a regular msdos MBR drive?
What do you mean with startup disks?
 
Old 02-11-2013, 06:36 AM   #13
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I retract that question, it wasn't thought out very well before asking, also you made it clear that a fresh install was in necessary.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 12:28 PM   #14
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Hi,
Thanks for your advise related to extended partitions. However in the meantime, i tried with a dvd and it created several folders like .disk, boot, casper, dists, efi, imstall, isolinux, pics, pool, pressed and four files. When i tried to run wubi, first of all it shows me two buttons having labels as (i)demo and full installation and ii)learn more. However when i click demo button, it shows a dialog box which ask me to boot or not to boot. If i say boot , it uploads the win7 again.
Is this because i dont have extended partition, ubuntu not installed?
Kindly guide me what should i be doing? I mean :
i) i have to delete all the partitions
ii) create extended partitions but how many and of what size
iii) install windows in non-extended partition
iv) install ubuntu on extended partition

Kindly guide me.

Zulfi.
 
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Ok, once again:
If you want to install Linux on your system you have to remove all partitions, convert the partitioning system to the standard MBR system and then re-install Windows. After that you can install Ubuntu.
The problem is that you can't do that because removing all partitions would also remove the recovery partition that is needed to install Windows.

So installing Ubuntu (or any other distribution) to the internal disk of that machine is not an option for you, unless you want to buy a separate version of Windows.
You have to use an external disk or a VM.
 
  


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