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Old 10-20-2003, 03:30 PM   #1
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Differences in Window Managers

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Besides the obvious visual differences, what are the differences between GNOME and KDE? Does one have any advantages over the other, such as speed or program compatibility or anything? Thanks in advance...
Old 10-20-2003, 03:40 PM   #2
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Both of them are pretty graphic oriented and give a more windows looking desktop. They both come with their own configuration tools, and have tools that come with them too.. I've never seen a huge difference between them, you can't really like one and hate the other because they're so alike.. The only real difference is the packages that come with each of them.

Advantage wise, they both take up a large amount of memory, and with compatibility issues (more dependency issues), I don't really know of any that are caused because of them, although some programs do rely on the libraries, but the programs that need them are going to be some sort of addon for it, so it'd only make sense to have it..

All in all there's no huge difference, if you were to compare and contrast BlackBox and KDE/Gnome then there'd be a ton when it comes to speed etc.
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The basic difference is in the libraries they're based on. KDE uses QT (written in C++) when GNOME uses GTK (written in C). GNOME should be faster, but that's only theory...
Programs written for QT won't work when you don't have it installed, the same with GTK. All distros install both, so you can run GNOME apps under KDE (you don't need the whole GNOME installed to run it's programs, the same with KDE).
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I have both GNOME and KDE installed on my Red Hat 9 Machine. Is there any advantage to havig it this way? Am I just duplicating things? What is a recommened setup?
Old 10-20-2003, 06:12 PM   #5
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no you aren't duplicating things, becaus of the forementioned libraries, i use windowmaker and run both kde and gnome apps, so you are not duplicating anything
Old 10-20-2003, 08:00 PM   #6
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Originally posted by FLOODS
you can't really like one and hate the other because they're so alike.
And people manage to do just that.

I've got both installed, as well as WindowMaker, AfterStep, and Blackbox, and I switch freely among them.

Old 10-20-2003, 08:43 PM   #7
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Originally posted by speter
And people manage to do just that.

I've got both installed, as well as WindowMaker, AfterStep, and Blackbox, and I switch freely among them.

I personally like KDE much better than Gnome.
Why you ask?

Well.. for one, Gnome apps crashed way too often.
I'd be browsing a Website.. and it'd crash. No matter which browser I used. (Mozilla, Netscrape, Opera)
Now using KDEs Konqueror.. I "rarely" see a crash.

Also... running Gnome, alot of programs just seemed to never want to open.
If after a crash, sometimes I try to go back and restart the program.. it goes to the taskbar, trys to start, and then drops out... and never loads. I had to log out, and re-login just to get things working normal again.

KDE never does this.

Although I do admit, Gnome did run a little faster for me, and my directories of music loaded faster.. but I'll sacrafice that little bit of speed for added stability.

It's just the little things about Gnome that bugged me.. such as what I just said above.
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KDE is best by far.

i don't know why people like gnome.....a win95 like GUI and has less aesthetic proportions among objects (some icons are too big, some are small, buttons are too large). also gnome seems a bit "sticky".

i refute that gnome runs fast, it is fast just after you log-in, but as you open more and more programs (especially kde programs), it becomes slow and sticky. gnome runs kde apps very slow...kde doesn't do that for gnome.
talking about customization...well gnome has no chance in it....nothing like kde (icons, karamba...).

people have nag about gnome because their leader (redhat, backed by computer giant IBM) has a nag over it. while red hat trying to make kde look and behave more and more like gnome, other kde-based distributions never do that. well, that's the way of americans--make everything "look like ours" that are better than our's.

i recall reading an article about a red hat employee leaving red hat and joining konqueror team. after a short stay he left konqueror, without contributing anything to the overall development, along with all the source code of konqueror and kde and rejoined red hat (stolen!?). next thing you hat 8.0 with konqueror looking more like "out of gnome"
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GNOME has some nasty bugs. Sometimes I can't log out from it and the graphical apparence is not as easily costumizable as in KDE.


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