Debian iso download confusion.

higgins909 · 03-28-2016, 08:11 PM

So I went to their website looking to see if there was a newer iso, there was, but now instead of dvd or cd or netinstall (something like that) there is small cd and tiny cd and netinstall. But even small cd is 247mb and says something about netinstall. I've got a 8.2.0 iso and its a dvd 1 and its almost 4GB.
I know that a fresh install is about 700MB, for server.

Which one do I need? I don't want to be downloading a ton of stuff every time I install a os, just when I download the iso.

Thanks,
Higgins909

jamison20000e · 03-28-2016, 08:31 PM

What is your end game and how much RAM? I like at lest the DVD but usually start with a netinst then build on to it with the DVD*

Code:

su
adduser loginName sudo
apt-cdrom add
aptitude

so I can set it up my may. And, do not forget non-free firmware if you dig around they now offer it in a .iso ...

Edit\add: the netinst will get you CLI...

michaelk · 03-28-2016, 08:33 PM

The full CD/DVD download link may not be obvious to the casual observer.

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A larger complete installation image: contains more packages, making it easier to install machines without an Internet connection.

higgins909 · 03-28-2016, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelk

The full CD/DVD download link may not be obvious to the casual observer.

Man, I walked right over that. Took me a few to find it still, as I was double checking.

jamison20000e,
I'm looking to use as little ram as possible, but when I had my dvd 1 iso, I was pretty happy, and found it fairly simple to setup.
I don't really know what is included in a small iso, so I wonder if the dvd 1 has me install useless packages that take up ram and cpu?
It wouldn't be a good thing to lose gigabit ethernet or something like that, for less packages.
I've also been confused a bit about how you can setup for non-free packages... for free?

jamison20000e · 03-28-2016, 10:38 PM

On the DVD\CD ones you can select to install less, even no DE\WM... the smallest CDs will be CLI with some GUI like applications available like Aptitude or Midnight Commander. Then you can add what you need?

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Originally Posted by higgins909

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I've also been confused a bit about how you can setup for non-free packages... for free?

It's more like the hardware is non-free(\open), buyers be bewa®e!

<--- I like Openbox, Window Maker, JWM, Xfce but why stop (well RAM?)

descendant_command · 03-28-2016, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by higgins909

I'm looking to use as little ram as possible, but when I had my dvd 1 iso, I was pretty happy, and found it fairly simple to setup.
I don't really know what is included in a small iso, so I wonder if the dvd 1 has me install useless packages that take up ram and cpu?
It wouldn't be a good thing to lose gigabit ethernet or something like that, for less packages.

You can chose what to install or not, maybe choose the 'advanced' install menu option - it will ask more questions.
The netinstall has all the same software available, just directly from Debian's servers rather than on the DVD/CD/USB.

Also, you can just use your 8.2 disk (or any 8.x media), then do an 'aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade' and you are running the current point-release.

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I've also been confused a bit about how you can setup for non-free packages... for free?

Add 'contrib non-free' to the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list
free/non-free refers to the software licence, not a price - see https://www.debian.org/social_contract.