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Old 12-03-2020, 12:39 PM   #1
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Crashs during booting - what's happening here


Hey guys,

my system has the following problem during booting. Arrow+Enter-keys are not movable any more. Nor does it perform a memory test correctly or lets me enter the system password in order to enter the bios setup.

What's wrong here?

Linux Mint 19.3 still runs fine on the same machine.

I load up 5 photos showing the states of system-freeze-crash I speak of.

Can anyone tell me what these problems mean or even better how to fix them?

Matthias
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Old 12-03-2020, 02:14 PM   #2
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It appears the keyboard is not loaded upon boot up. Most likely cause is the USB flash drive, removing the flash drive should allow the computer to boot normally. I noticed it shows the USB flash drive as a EFI bootable device, perhaps the computer is set to boot in legacy BIOS mode and the EFI boot device chokes the boot process. Maybe, with flash drive removed, go into BIOS and check what mode you are in, you may need to switch to EFI boot before attempting to boot the EFI flash drive.
 
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Old 12-03-2020, 03:46 PM   #3
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If it was the USB Drive then it would not have the same issue when I have no USB plugged in would it (see pic 3)? For some reason I do not understand, I cannot enter the bios setup. I do remember my system password as it is used in the beginning logging into the hard drive. But I cannot enter any letters in pic 5. Also: Why would a memory test crash the system and fail because of a usb drive plugged in?

I think we are on the wrong track. It‘s not the usb drive for the reasons mentioned above.
 
Old 12-03-2020, 03:48 PM   #4
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If it was the USB Drive then it would not have the same issue when I have no USB plugged in would it (see pic 3)? For some reason I do not understand, I cannot enter the bios setup. I do remember my system password as it is used in the beginning logging into the hard drive. But I cannot enter any letters in pic 5. Also: Why would a memory test crash the system and fail because of a usb drive plugged in?

I think we are on the wrong track. It‘s not the usb drive for the reasons mentioned above.
Maybe it's bad memory?
 
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Old 12-03-2020, 04:57 PM   #5
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I think this a lot more likely!! Especially since at other moments the whole machine just works fine - as I perceive it especially when I react very quick and press the keys suddenly after a menu appears. This is so strange. A computer is a machine. It does not react consciously to human behaviors!
 
Old 12-04-2020, 04:47 AM   #6
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I‘ve contacted the Lenovo support. They told me how to set Bios back to default settings. After that the crash-problem seemed to be solved until I reconnected the machine to the Ethernet and external USB-Keyboard. I have repeated the same procedure (unplug USB and Ethernet + setback to defaults in Bios) and want to install the BIOS update. As a matter of fact Lenovo keeps telling me that Windows needs to be the OS for such an BIOS update. Since they were the ones whose advice got me furthest I will follow them for now and see if I can get Linux back on the machine after that BIOS update. What a „mess of systems“ here!

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Old 12-04-2020, 10:44 AM   #7
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Ok - apparently a Windows system can actually do any good. I was not believing in that little fact so far. But I for two little issues was proved very wrong by reality itself today (shit happens, even morally-justified-good-will-stubborn-ness cannot always win you a clear path):

1. Adobe Connect works fine in Windows. The flash basis from Adobe is very bad but it works! I know. That sounds all so conservatively disappointing! Who cares. I can study now.

2. I was able to quickly update my BIOS system for this machine. That was more than overdue after 5 years.

I summarize that the answer to 2020 IT-questions is not always clear or the same. I will probably try to use all 3 major systems available on the market (Windows, Linux, MacOS). I learned today: Every single one of them has it’s advantages. Don’t stay silly. Better start learning about the complexity of the world right now...

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Old 12-04-2020, 12:29 PM   #8
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Ok - apparently a Windows system can actually do any good. I was not believing in that little fact so far. But I for two little issues was proved very wrong by reality itself today (shit happens, even morally-justified-good-will-stubborn-ness cannot always win you a clear path):

1. Adobe Connect works fine in Windows. The flash basis from Adobe is very bad but it works! I know. That sounds all so conservatively disappointing! Who cares. I can study now.

2. I was able to quickly update my BIOS system for this machine. That was more than overdue after 5 years.

I summarize that the answer to 2020 IT-questions is not always clear or the same. I will probably try to use all 3 major systems available on the market (Windows, Linux, MacOS). I learned today: Every single one of them has it’s advantages. Don’t stay silly. Better start learning about the complexity of the world right now...
The same closing statement in two threads?
I don't get it ...
 
  


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