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View Poll Results: Which is better, Chromium or Firefox?
Chromium 11 16.42%
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Old 11-08-2014, 01:51 PM   #31
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While it is (probably) true that if nobody paid for DRM content they wouldn't produce it what you do as an individual makes no difference unless you don't pay the monopolists anything.
Is that even possible, even if say you don't ever buy a movie made by them again ? I don't think that's a good solution, it would be better to try to compromise with them or make a deal of some kind or steer them in the right direction.
 
Old 11-08-2014, 01:54 PM   #32
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Maybe it was pepperflash in 2009 and a few years later. It's possible that google and adobe made some kind of deal to include adobe flash instaed of pepperflash.

I'm just going by what my chrome browser is reporting today and not in 2009.

Perhaps it's still pepperflash today and google is lying to us saying it is the official adobe flash player.

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Old 11-08-2014, 01:55 PM   #33
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Is that even possible, even if say you don't ever buy a movie made by them again ? I don't think that's a good solution, it would be better to try to compromise with them or make a deal of some kind or steer them in the right direction.
They know DRM is horrible but they implement it because they can -- they have the money to buy it and pay politicians to enact laws to protect it. To them you're just another dumb idiot who pays them.
 
Old 11-08-2014, 01:57 PM   #34
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Maybe it was pepperflash in 2009 and a few years later. It's possible that google and adobe made some kind of deal to include adobe flash instaed of pepperflash.

I'm just going by what my chrome browser is reporting today and not in 2009.

Perhaps it's still pepperflash today and google is lying to us saying it is the official adobe flash player.
I could explain why you are wrong and how but you seem to feel the need to insist that you are right so I won't bother.
 
Old 11-08-2014, 02:03 PM   #35
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I could explain why you are wrong and how but you seem to feel the need to insist that you are right so I won't bother.
Perhaps you are correct. I was just going by what my browser was reporting.
 
Old 11-08-2014, 02:07 PM   #36
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I am sorry, I forgot that this is a forum to help people so I will explain:
The Pepper API is one developed by Google for their browser and there is a version of Flash available for this which pretty much keeps up with the versions for Windows and OSX. This is commonly referred to as "Pepperflash" because it is a distinctly different thing to the standard NPAPI version. This version of Flash is included with Google Chrome when downloaded -- this is in contrast to the version of Flash used by Firefox or other browsers installed which generally share the same instance of Flash.
If you check the Adobe link I posted you will notice that the version of Flash for Linux is on 11 but that on Windows and Mac is on 15. However, Peperflash is on version 15.
My initial post was referring to the fact that there is a package called "pepperflash-plugin-nonfree" (or similar) which allows Chromium to use the same version of Flash as Google Chrome does. This means one can have all the benefits of Google Chrome in the open-source Chromium.
 
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I understand now. Thanks 273
 
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I understand now. Thanks 273
Sorry for the previous rude replies. I blame it on staying up past my bedtime last night.
 
Old 11-10-2014, 01:38 PM   #39
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Happy with

opera-developer_27.0.1670.0_amd64.deb

so far.

Runs a bit snappier than my Chromium or Firefox installs. I have only been running it for a hour or so.
Glad you are enjoying it. If you need to install on a distro that does not use .deb packages

https://gist.github.com/ruario/ace4fb780216aa28d922

Need the latest Flash to go with it:

https://gist.github.com/ruario/215c365facfe8d3c5071

Want H.264 video support:

https://gist.github.com/ruario/7b33ca4cf70e6ff70880

Some things Opera has going for it (my biased opinion)

The best Speed Dial
The best HiDPI support on Linux (picks up settings from Unity or Gnome, no tweaking in Opera)
Activation order tab cycling options
Keyboard shortcuts are customisable
Large tab preview
Extensions in the store are reviewed
Built in mouse and rocker gestures
Single key shortcuts
Bookmark (collections) sharing
Tab menu

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Old 11-21-2014, 04:34 PM   #40
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Firefox for years and years, I remember using Netscape in old times.
Tried others but Firefox suits my needs perfectly.
 
Old 11-21-2014, 04:50 PM   #41
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Aside from "freedom" firefox seems to have the most freedom.
 
Old 11-21-2014, 05:14 PM   #42
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both and nether

use the browser that BEST FITS YOUR NEEDS
 
Old 11-21-2014, 05:34 PM   #43
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Pale Moon

I've used Firefox exclusively for over 10 years, until recently when it became too bloated. I also lost the ability to control bars and menus like before, especially while trying to avoid all things related to tabs.

Discovered Pale Moon, a simple, light version of Firefox. It uses FF add-ons, all my favorites. Couldn't be happier.
 
Old 11-21-2014, 05:54 PM   #44
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there is always
"w3m"
http://imgbox.com/iecShGov

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Old 11-21-2014, 08:22 PM   #45
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I voted for Chromium, but I need both as well as Opera because there seems to be no one browser that works on all web sites.
 
  


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