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Old 06-21-2007, 06:29 PM   #16
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I too have done everything from DOS to XP. I routinely have several versions of linux plus Windows on my computer. Whether VISTA was designed to make dual booting with linux difficult or it is incidental is an open question. To go back to my original post, I would bet that sooner or later linux programmers will solve the problem.
 
Old 06-21-2007, 07:33 PM   #17
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Maybe if someone really thinks it's in his/her/our interest to try to change that behaviour in a windows os. Can't really see it though to be honest.
 
Old 06-21-2007, 07:59 PM   #18
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"Seems vista is designed to make it hard for people to dual boot."

Is it really? I installed Debian Etch on a Dell with stock Windows Vista already installed. It worked like a charm, just as if it were Windows XP. The only difference as far as I could tell was that the installer put "Windows Vista" in the boot menu description instead of "Windows XP".
 
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I'm just going on what has been said before about installing vista. I guess the solution is install vista first, then set up partitions after for linux.

I have no experience, nor do I really want any, of installing vista.
 
Old 06-22-2007, 09:14 AM   #20
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Well, sure--but that's the exact same solution used for every other version of Windows.
 
Old 06-22-2007, 09:26 AM   #21
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"Seems vista is designed to make it hard for people to dual boot."

Is it really? I installed Debian Etch on a Dell with stock Windows Vista already installed. It worked like a charm, just as if it were Windows XP. The only difference as far as I could tell was that the installer put "Windows Vista" in the boot menu description instead of "Windows XP".
1. How much of your hard drive is allocated to Vista?
2. Can you boot both with grub?
 
Old 06-22-2007, 09:34 AM   #22
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On the Vista computer I installed Debian 4.0 on, the user primarily uses Windows. Therefore, I only allocated a small portion of the hard drive to Linux. I used Vista's built in partitioner to shrink its partition by about 10 gigs.

Like many other Linux distributions, Debian 4.0 installs grub by default. When the installer got to that step, it gave me a popup window saying that it detected a Windows OS in addition to the Debian install, and asked if it was okay to install grub. I told it yes, and it installed grub. Easy as pie! Both Windows and Debian 4.0 boot up just fine from the default install.

As I said, it worked like a charm.
 
Old 06-22-2007, 09:46 AM   #23
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To IsaacKuo:

I tried exactly what you did except that I gave linux much more space since I regard Windows as a nuisance that is sometimes needed. Grub booted Vista into a repair mode.

However, based on your report, I will play with it some more.If I find something that works as well as XP, I shall post how I did it.

On my desktop, I now have XP and four linux distributions working properly, booting with grub.
 
Old 06-22-2007, 09:55 AM   #24
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Does Vista insist that your partitions are changed during install? If not, you could use a live distro to partition your drive the way you want it, then install Vista, and then install Linux. Vista shouldn't complain about that since no partitions have changed. (Nothing would surprise me with Micro$oft though).

I have experience of most M$ operating systems from DOS up to XP, but I have been very reluctant to touch Vista at all. The more I hear about it, the more reluctant I become. I suppose I'll have to come into contact with it one day, but I'll do my best to delay that as long as possible.
 
Old 06-22-2007, 10:00 AM   #25
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I don't remember, but I think Vista's first boot after installing Linux might have been some sort of "repair" mode thingy similar to what happens with Windows XP when you resize its partition or move it from one hard drive to another. No big deal, it's just one reboot.
 
Old 06-22-2007, 10:47 AM   #26
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When I got the "repair" mode, I stopped. I shall try a reboot as suggested.

I used gparted to remove the originally installed Vista and create a linux partition. After installing a linux OS, I then created another partition and installed Vista to it. Grub then got me into the repair mode when I chose Vista. I also did the Vista first with the Vista partitioner, but after installing grub it got me to the repair mode.

My current plan is to wipe out Vista, install my four linux distributions, and leave 20 GB or less for Vista. When I want to waste time I will try to activate the Vista partition.
 
Old 06-24-2007, 09:39 AM   #27
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Vista, XP and all that

I agree with the suggestion to 'build your own' - then you will be free to do what you like, and not be dominated. The last computer I bought was an AST 286. Since then I 'assemble' a computer to satisfy a particular need. Components just plug together provided you have regard for specifications.

I have three computers. My Win98 system has a lot of electronic engineering software on it, and I did all my web-sites on it with Dreamweaver. Also, Win98 has MS-DOS 6.22 which I use a lot. My second computer is XP (because it has to be for my video-editing package). It has huge hard-disks and a fast AMD Athlon. My third computer, this one, is Linux only because I did not like sharing with Win98 when I tried that. It is AMD Sempron-based and has one 80Gb hard disk although I am going to add another hard disk out of a MS system to see if I can access it.

There are many good books on 'building your own'. Have a go! You can then come back to LinuxQuestions Hardware where your every problem will be solved.
 
  


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