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Old 09-10-2016, 12:11 PM   #1
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centralized program updates center


Hey guys,

I m looking for some enterprise level network management tool, to centralize program updates for end user . The basic idea to roll out updates from a controlled environment for programs like mozilla, java updates, everything what the end user should update periodically, but without the problem of restarting and pausing their work on their pc. This would be for windows pc s . I know windows server has WSUS, to rollout windows updates, but i want to manage all updates.
Any ideas, about a product existing which could do this , be it payed or a free one ? ( i m guessing there s a slight chance for existing for free something of this caliber)

Thanks alot,
Steve
 
Old 09-10-2016, 09:21 PM   #2
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with redhat it is called "yum"
with suse it is called "zypper"
 
Old 09-11-2016, 12:44 AM   #3
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I odnt think thats what i m looking for
 
Old 09-11-2016, 12:56 AM   #4
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what operating system then ?

some have there own support
call redhat or novell or one of the other support company's

linux OS's use a standard repo to install updates
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everything what the end user should update periodically, but without the problem of restarting and pausing their work on their pc
that is ONLY a Microsoft issue

not a linux one

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Any ideas, about a product existing which could do this
as above , the operating systems package manager
yum
dnf
apt
zypper
or packman
 
Old 09-11-2016, 02:32 AM   #5
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I said, centrally managed updates. So i would control all the updates from one administrator computer, several other computers. I m talking about enterprise level management.
 
Old 09-11-2016, 07:08 AM   #6
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I said, centrally managed updates. So i would control all the updates from one administrator computer, several other computers. I m talking about enterprise level management.
So were the posts.

Each distribution has a default central repository that provides updates to all systems that use that repository - thus, centrally controlled updates. All allow you to define your own repository, and you can replace the repository definition on each system. Thus you have control.

Are you talking about forcing systems to update at a time of your choosing? The usual problem is determining if that is an appropriate time... If the system is busy then doing so can interrupt the user or cause other problems (loss of work, time, potential data corruption if a forced reboot is done). Normally that is scheduled on the system itself. You can force individual systems by using ssh to login and force an update immediately, or use the cron scheduler to perform an update at a prearranged time. You can actually use a cron to use ssh to connect and force an update if you want to. Or you can use an application like puppet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet_(software) )
 
Old 09-11-2016, 07:27 AM   #7
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Yes i m talking about scheduling updates. The end user would have a program-utility which shows the available updates, and could postpone is for a few day lets say. And as an administrator, i could follow which user, which update has (and updates can be downloaded just through that utility). Such a system is implemented at my friend workplace. It s a huge electronics company.
I m just looking for starting tips. Thanks for the kind help tho.
 
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Yes i m talking about scheduling updates. The end user would have a program-utility which shows the available updates, and could postpone is for a few day lets say. And as an administrator, i could follow which user, which update has (and updates can be downloaded just through that utility). Such a system is implemented at my friend workplace. It s a huge electronics company.
I m just looking for starting tips. Thanks for the kind help tho.
Then the previous posts are what you wanted. To find out what is on each system the easiest way is to remotely login and look at the installed versions of the packages, but you could look in the repository download log for the same information.
 
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Besides kernels "these days" what requires a reboot?

Curious.
It's Sunday and last week killed me.

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Old 09-11-2016, 09:41 AM   #10
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these tips are not quite usefull if we re talking about over 100 clients.... i need more of an out of the box method
 
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these tips are not quite usefull if we re talking about over 100 clients.... i need more of an out of the box method
You're Welcome.
https://www.google.com/#q=manage%20l...es%20centrally

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Old 09-11-2016, 09:48 AM   #12
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I know following method is used with Gentoo farms.

One computer serves as test and binhost, all updates are tested and binpackages are built upon pass in this host. All other hosts get the updates from binhost as they become available, no user intervention required. Simple, isn't it?
 
Old 09-11-2016, 10:15 AM   #13
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Ty for your help Emerson, i ll look into it, sounds about right. One more question, does this solution offer some insight about the states of the upgrated pc s ? Or it s working blindly ?
 
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It is up to you, easiest is to let all nodes to email your local account with update results. BTW, all this functionality (and much more) is built into Gentoo package management, no extra software is needed.
 
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