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Old 11-11-2016, 12:28 PM   #1
JackDinn
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cant find an email client that works.


i swapped over to linux about a year ago but i have yet to find an email client that works. Im using a brand new comp with a new installation of mint 18 KDE ATM.

Thunderbird:-
tray will not integrate, iv tried firetray, minimize to tray revisited, alltray, kdocker, and off curse all the standard TB tray settings. The closest iv got is with a combo of firetray + minimize to tray + mailbox alert but still it is not great.

Id like:-
  • minimize/close to tray
  • icon change/notify on new mail
  • number of unread mail on tray icon
  • left click icon to raise/lower application
  • notification pop-ups of new mail

So i spent the last couple of days trying korganizer/kmail/kalender. That is unfit for purposes and the KDE help is woeful. I admit i only posted this morning but it looks darn quite on the KDE forum and anyhow these look like bugs that i doubt i will be able to get sorted.

problem list:-
Iv tried other clients but they are not anywhere near thunderbird/kmail/windows mail/or even outlook (dont use windows but just saying).

It looks to me like im just going to have to forget about using the tray for my email client running in the background and just leave TB on the panel.

Any suggestions out there ?

thx.

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System: Host: greg-Inspiron-5767 Kernel: 4.4.0-47-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.6.5
Distro: Linux Mint 18 Sarah
Machine: System: Dell (portable) product: Inspiron 5767

Brand new comp, New installation of mint 18 KDE.
 
Old 11-12-2016, 07:28 AM   #2
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It reads to me as if your issues have nothing to do with reading mail. Your problems all appear to be application display and alert issues with desktop integration. Perhaps part of the problem is that the desktop you are using is not optimal for what you want to see.

I currently use Thunderbird, but on occasion mutt and a handful of other mail clients. I have yet to find one that does NOT work for receiving and reading mail. I leave Thunderbird up on one workspace, while displaying and working on one or two others, and very much like the way it notifies me of new mail. That whole 'notify on taskbar' thing is far to MS Windowsie for me anyway.
 
Old 11-12-2016, 07:38 AM   #3
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o yea they all receive and i can obviously read my mail (did i say i could not anywhere) but i dont want just to be able to read my mail otherwise i could just use the web-client for each account.

Personally i count the failure of a mail client to integrate with the tray (especially when its supposed to) to be a program bug/failure, I wont use it if it cant integrate properly thats why im asking to see if anyone has anything i may have missed.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 10:50 AM   #4
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My Thunderbird + Firetray works fine. It does everything on your list except for "left click icon to raise/lower application". Not an issue for me, though. It's pretty easy to click the workspace icon and the Minimize icon on Thunderbird.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 11:09 AM   #5
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yea i suppose im being picky but i spend far to much time tinkering with computers for my own good maybe and it does bother me. Iv actually been looking through the code of fire tray and minimize to tray revisited because between the 2 of them they have the code i want. Unfortunately im not versed in C,/+/+,+ or building TB addons although i do tinker with code, but its always darn hard going through someone else's.

However i have got what I shall call a solution for now and that is to us firetray to get an icon to show on new mail (but disable everything else it does), minimize to tray R to do the main tray icon (although this has a bug of causing a new/extra icon for some of the other windows TB may open like the "wright new mail" child window) which never go away again). Then the system tray settings to force hide them extra icons.

So im cool atm, a bit of a hash up but only missing the number of unread mail in the tray icon is not bad.

Cheers.

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Old 11-14-2016, 11:16 AM   #6
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I use claws-mail and with the plugins get everything you list except number of unread mail. That MAY even be an option, but it's an option I don't want, so never looked (I also no longer use minimize to tray either since I've gotten used to meta+tab to change activities in KDE and so I just set claws-mail to launch on a separate activity and no need to minimize to tray since it's out of the way and but a meta-tab away if I hear/see notification of new mail).

Good that you got everything working regardless, but figured I'd still mention some alternatives.

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Old 11-14-2016, 11:25 AM   #7
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Sure, a hot key, an icon, its personal choice and whatever your used to i suppose. Im happy to use plenty of keys when im tinkering like vim editing, console , kate etc but i prefer the tray and task bar when im just sitting back browsing , emailing kinda things.

But again, its the fact that these functions are there and are supposed to work. I loved the kmail/kontact tray integration it works great just a pity it has so many bugs for this version on this kde/plasma. maybe soon.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 11:34 AM   #8
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yea i couldn't remember but i think i tried claws-mail before. was that the one that you had only 1 account ?
 
Old 11-14-2016, 11:51 AM   #9
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yea i couldn't remember but i think i tried claws-mail before. was that the one that you had only 1 account ?
No, I have 4 accounts set up in my Claws. I have fastmail, 2 Gmails, and my ISP's email account.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 11:52 AM   #10
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hmm, must have been some reason i dropped it. I shall take another look. thx.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 11:56 AM   #11
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Well, it does take some getting used to. Some of the options for sending aren't well explained what they actually do, and so setting up accounts are a bit hit & miss as they're named slightly different than almost any tutorial will give (or at least they were, I think recent versions have been trying to name the options more "in line" with industry leader mail programs). I know i kept dumping it and going back to thunderbird YEARS ago because I couldn't get my "send" set up for multiple accounts because the options I needed weren't called what I was expecting so I thought it didn't support that option.

Now I just keep my profile zipped up and password protected so if I install a new machine (quite regularly, at least 1 of my machines is always an OS test machine that gets reimaged regularly to try out different distros), I just extract that file and do a sync, and everything is up to date.

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Old 11-14-2016, 12:09 PM   #12
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yea i keep Tb & FF backed up just the same (although this install of .thunderbird did mess up my enigmail but no prob to fix). Well i shall certainly take a look again, just finish some support tickets iv got to answer first.

Shall let you know what i think.
 
Old 11-15-2016, 02:08 AM   #13
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RE:- Claws-Mail.

How do you unify all the in-box's ? cant seem to find how to show HTML and/or remote content in mail? also where is the tray setup ?
 
Old 11-15-2016, 06:40 AM   #14
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Assuming debian:

claws-mail-multi-notifier - system tray
claws-mail-fancy-plugin - html

Not sure how to unify the inboxes, that's something I specifically despise when a client does, as it (IMO) makes it messy and impossible to track what goes to what.
 
Old 11-15-2016, 06:57 AM   #15
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o no unifier, that was most likely why i dropped it as having over 10 different inbox's, sent, spam, etc is what i call messy but each to there own.

However i shall see if i can figure how to get the plugins installed which is stumping me just atm but im sure i can find out. Maybe there is a unifier.

cheers.
 
  


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