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unimaginative 01-04-2004 12:12 AM

can you use a console as a window manager
i mean one that can run X based applications, im not talking about failsafe
if so. how

darthtux 01-04-2004 12:23 AM

A console login only runs console apps. To run X apps you have to have X running and it requies a window manager.

unimaginative 01-04-2004 12:28 AM

are there any X window managers that are actually just a console?

darthtux 01-04-2004 12:36 AM

Take a look here

There aren't any that are "just a console". But there are some that are just a background and the only program you have to start is a console.

twm should already be on your system.
aewm++ is a very simple window manager.

ugenn 01-04-2004 12:37 AM

i don't get what you mean by "console as a window manager". if you're trying to run X apps w/o actually running a graphical X-server, then try looking up Xfvb. XFvb simulates a dummy framebuffer but using this obviously means you won't see a thing on screen.

frieza 01-04-2004 12:47 AM

strictly speaking, a window manager isn't a prerequisite for X, although without a window manager to draw windows around X programs you can't really do much, there are gui programs tha use the framebuffer console, not X, but i'm not sure what programs do this.

unimaginative 01-04-2004 01:34 AM

well, thanks for all you guy's help. i have one question though
Is there anyway i could get twm to start with the a full maximized window with the following command?

rxvt -bg black -fg white

darthtux 01-04-2004 01:49 AM

If your using the .xinitrc file for your X startup config, put in it the line

rxvt -bg black -fg white -geometry [whatever you resolution is] &

slakmagik 01-04-2004 02:00 AM

If you want a console-like X, get ratpoison.
If you want an X-like console, get screen.

darthtux 01-04-2004 02:04 AM

Take a look at this thread

it seems to have an answer to your problem

Chu 01-04-2004 04:22 AM

Screen is an awesome console window manager.

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