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Old 02-22-2005, 02:38 AM   #1
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Can linux be more like a console?


Im just curius to know can linux be make to be non multi purpose and just focus on one task?

as consoles are pathetically equipt mostly compared to pcs. and perform about the same in some cases
The xbox has a 700 mhz pentium 3 and 64mb of ram yet performs as well as a 512 mb 2.6ghz computer!?

As linux is open source im sure its possible to achieve this on a pc. Then linux would be massivly more powerful at games etc... than windows attracting more converts.

Linux in it's very nature is multipurpose, but can it be 'altered' and still remain compatable?
 
Old 02-22-2005, 02:53 AM   #2
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here ya go.


http://www.xbox-linux.org/
 
Old 02-22-2005, 02:55 AM   #3
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Thats not what i meant i meant making linux behave like a console os.!
 
Old 02-22-2005, 03:16 AM   #4
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I dont think it would be wise, tho it might be possible. A gameconsole has alot less to worry about.. Concistent hardware, no other purpose than to run the game.. A pc has numerous different hardware components, and so to say, alot more worries on keeping itself running..

Now, you can allways run a process you want more power to with "nice" but that realy only prioritizes it over other processes.
 
Old 02-22-2005, 04:09 AM   #5
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wouldn't be wise? the same code running in your kernel is also running mobile phones, watching, industrial robots.... what logical extension says that it can't be a full on games machine too?

i'm not aware of any projects actively doing it, but i expect they're there. is the gp32 running Linux? might be....
 
Old 02-22-2005, 04:35 AM   #6
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thats true.. So it would be wise if youd have a tailored extra kernel booting such a system.. But modifying a stock linux distro to do the same thing, that would be a severe error.. Thats what I meant.. (:

Yeah, it could be pretty nice to have a stripped gaming kernel, and a lightweight minidistro ontop.. The thing is, there are no chances of getting the same performance efficiency that a console has with diverse pc hardware.. Now, I can imagine this working pretty nicely with a PPC machine, so probably its under development somewhere..
 
Old 02-22-2005, 04:58 AM   #7
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You might want to google for RTL (Real Time Linux). The goals are similar to what you mentioned. For a dedicated host you might have a number of services and programs removed, and run a lightweight windows manager. Choosing the right motherboard for the task would also make a difference.
 
Old 02-24-2005, 07:12 PM   #8
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do u think its possible on gentoo x86 linux?

i will try to apply the patch to a 2.4 and 2.6 kernel and do some benchmarks to see what happens ill post back with the results. (a before and after will be provided aswell)
 
Old 03-09-2005, 01:49 PM   #9
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According to gentoo's forums real time linux isn't suited to this purpose, how do i do more with less like a console (i want it for games, internet and music)
 
Old 03-09-2005, 01:58 PM   #10
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First off--Yes, Linux can act like a console. For example, Linux is the OS used by Tivo boxes. That's pretty console-like, except it doesn't have a cartridge/disc slot for running any software other than the Tivo DVR stuff.

For something more console-like, you might find Games Knoppix and other Knoppix variants interesting. These are LiveCDs, which make your computer act like a console--you insert the CD in, turn the computer on, and it runs the software straight off of the CD! You don't even need a hard drive! That's even more console-like than an X-Box.

Also, while Linux on an X-Box is more or less like a traditional Linux setup, Linux on a Dreamcast is an entirely different story. The DC has no hard drive, so DC Linux projects are more like embedded software development. It's like a liveCD where everything has to be installed on the disc from the start, but it's unlike a typical liveCD in that there's no need for generic computer hardware auto-detection scripts.

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Old 03-10-2005, 11:13 AM   #11
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knoppix with quake 3 & ut2004? i think not also they're slow as hell. Any usaful suggestions?
 
Old 03-10-2005, 01:52 PM   #12
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Does anyone know the name of the distro that is basically a multimedia center. Basically only useful for hooking up to a TV and playing DVDs, watching TV, recording and stuff like that. It was very single purpose though, couldn't use it as a PC.
 
Old 03-10-2005, 02:02 PM   #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by acid_kewpie
wouldn't be wise? the same code running in your kernel is also running mobile phones, watching, industrial robots.... what logical extension says that it can't be a full on games machine too?

i'm not aware of any projects actively doing it, but i expect they're there. is the gp32 running Linux? might be....
actually... i've seen a bartop coinop game based on linux, and one basedon freebsd
 
Old 03-10-2005, 02:36 PM   #14
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Does anyone know the name of the distro that is basically a multimedia center. Basically only useful for hooking up to a TV and playing DVDs, watching TV, recording and stuff like that. It was very single purpose though, couldn't use it as a PC.
KnoppMyth

You can see a review of it here. The review is really about Microsoft MCE, but they talk about KnoppMyth too.
 
  


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