Burnt Audio CD by K3B CANNOT play on external CD playing device, but can play on comp
Using Xubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn
I want to burn an EXACT copy of an original legitimate Audio CD to a CD-R Start K3B choose 'Copy CD' Source Medium: Audio CD Burn Medium: Use the same device for burning Speed: 1x (but later defaulted to 8x) Copy Mode: Clone Copy Writing Mode: Auto Start burn. K3b asks something about CD-text, maybe I chose yes. *Plays trumpet tune* Write SUCCESS!! Burnt Audio CD plays on my Dell Inspiron 6400 DVD-RW/CD-RW, another desktop computer has a slight difficulty. But more importantly does NOT play on any other external CD playing device (discman,etc) or DVD players (audio CD capable). But using Nero Express on Windoze burning another exact copy with 16x, plays on ANY audio CD playing devices. WHY K3B WHY?!?! I worshiped you! I would like an explanation why bloated Nero burns better please. Is this problem addressed in K3b(other burning apps as well)? Or am I doing something wrong? Should I change a certain setting? Here's the log I found in ~/.kde/share/apps/k3b/lastlog.log Code:
[System] K3b Version: 1.0 Also when I burn PS2 game .iso files with Gnome Nautilus, XFburn, on 2x , it does not play on my old PS2 with a weak laser. However DVD-Decrypter on Wine burnt with 2x plays wonderfully on the PS2. Same problem as Audio CD but with a DVD. WHY? Explanation? Fix? -------end DVD-------- I'm considering another app like gnomebaker, gtoaster, graveman but I need assurance, I do not want to waste another CD-R. Please recommend me an app only if you are certain that it works on external devices. I really want to use a native application, not windoze apps running wine. We want to be free from winblows right? **Problem resolved from post #3 and #10** Do not use 'Clone Copy' for audio cds with K3b! Thanks in advance, Robin |
Try to copy the image using:
$ cp /dev/<your CD device> ~/image.iso And burn it. Try changing your media too, some sound systens have problems to read some medias! [] 's, FMC! |
I have been copying audio CDs using k3b for quite a while without running into any problem. One thing I'd suggest is that you use "Normal Copy" instead of "Clone Copy." I can't explain why, but I remember "Clone Copy" not working correctly.
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http://k3b.plainblack.com/message-bo...and-clone-copy Also another reason is Clone Copy produces two files, .img and .toc, whereas Normal Copy produces many .wav files. But strangely, in no way can it produce just one .iso file which is what I prefer. Why is that? Anyway I'll try the 'Normal Copy' on Saturday when i'll be in the office to use the CD players and get back to you. Meanwhile if there's any more explanation to my 'why?'s, please post. Thanks all, Robin |
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If you just want to generate the .iso file you should check an option that looks like "Just generate image file" (something like that). You can try kiso too: http://kiso.sourceforge.net/ I like it, pretty good app! []īs, FMC! |
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Remember guys/gals, im talking audio CDs here. I checked myself putting in a data CD like an Ubuntu installation CD and it can burn to .iso.
However with an audio CD, K3b does NOT allow burning to .iso. With normal copy, it ouputs .wav files, with clone copy it outputs .img & .toc. I guess I just have to accept the fact that for copying audio cd, it does not create any .iso file. I have yet to try 'normal copy', I'll post back tomorrow. |
With K3b, I use the "New Audio CD Project" option, select and drag the tracks I want into the Current Projects window and hit Burn.
I just burned a copy now to check it works. Copied to a cdrw which plays in my computer and on the stereo system. Quote:
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You are right daihard. Normal copy works. Thanks!
That makes Clone copy pretty useless doesn't it? Maybe I have to ask the K3b guys, 'What's up with that?' For VCDs maybe? Maybe this thread will help get the message across to other googlers. DON'T USE CLONE COPY FOR AUDIO CDs!! Crawl this google. Anyway I wanted an .iso file because it is just 1 file and it's a pretty popular format, so why not be able to copy to .iso with K3b for audio CDs? I also got the impression that .iso means the 'exact', 'complete' image of a CD/DVD, so when I saw that K3b created whole bunch of .wav files, I saw it as some form of 'ripping', that maybe some little bits and pieces will get missing between those tracks, even though I knew that .wav files are raw and uncompressed. I'm probably paranoid but fine with .wav files now, since it works on any CD playing device now and also able to play the extracted .wav from the hard drive whereas you can't with an .iso file. Thanks all, didn't get a single reply from ubuntuforums, maybe it's getting a bit too crowded there. Robin |
You're welcome.
I found the following explanation on k3b.plainblack.com. Quote:
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There is a program to convert img 2 iso: http://www.t2-project.org/packages/img2iso.html
Last time i tried it was a hard thing to make it work, but it works...! Thanks for the tip, next time I will try normal copy for audio CDs too! []'s, FMC! |
Burnt Audio CD by K3B CANNOT play on external CD playing device, but can play on comp
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Best regards, B |
According to http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=145285, Nero for Linux doesn't seem to be able to handle the .nrg files very well...
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Good on wikipedia. Let me fix that URL a bit for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_image Also look up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc#Audio_format http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wav#Audio_CDs says: "Audio CDs do not use WAV as their sound format, using instead Red Book audio. The commonality is that both audio CDs and WAV files have the audio data encoded in PCM. WAV is a data file format for computer use that can't be understood by CD players directly. To record WAV files to an Audio CD the file headers must be stripped and the remaining PCM data written directly to the disc as individual tracks with zero padding added to match the CD's sector size." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Boo...o_CD_standard) says: "The Red Book standard is not freely available and must be licensed from Philips." So I guess WAV is the way to go? Well I guess you don't have a choice if you are using K3b. But one question still remains: What does "Clone Copy" do? I'm just gonna assume it's only suited for VCDs. |
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