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Old 11-12-2013, 03:04 PM   #1
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Browser Linux DHCP Problem


2013-11-12

I am having a very strange wireless connection problem using Browser Linux 401 on a particular computer. The same machine connects to the Internet well using the same wireless adapter in Ubuntu 12.04. When used on my other two machines, Browser Linux goes online fine using the same wireless adapter, namely an IOgear WU625 wireless-n whose driver is RTL8192.

I am listing my wireless test data I've collected hoping that some Puppy Linux or Browser Linux users can help me. I tend to believe that this may be a wireless setup or DHCP issue, and not a hardware one.

(1) Simple Network Setup shows
Interface=wlan0
Type=wireless
Driver=rtl819XU
Bus=x
Description=x

(2) After I select my SSID, WEP, enter the Key and click Connect, Simple Network Setup returns
"DHCP failed to negotiate with wireless network"

(3) Wireless IP information

PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 15:12 Post subject: Browser LinuxHCP Problem
Subject description: The time now is Sat 09 Nov 2013, 14:45DHCP Fails to negotaiate with wirele(ss network Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post
The time now is Sat 09 Nov 2013, 14:45(5)
Wireless Configuration:
No wireless extension detected

(4) # lsusb outputs
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8172 (Device ID for wireless adapter in (question)

(5) Browser Linux /lib/firmware shows
RTL8192SU
rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_linux_v2.60006.2100625

------------------------------------------ Data ----------------------------------------------------------
When I try to follow Puppy Network Wizard's advice, I see the following

# lsmod
r8192s_usb

# ifconfig -a (fails to show any info related to the module)(5) Bro wser Linux /lib/firmware shows
RTL8192SU
rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_linux_v2.60006.2100625

# iwconfig (fails to show any info related to the module)

# ifconfig wlan0 up outputs
No such device

# iwconfig wlan0 essid 8ZTI3 (is accepted but Linux returns no output)

# iwconfig key open xxxxxxxxxx (where xxxxxxxxxx represents my key)
Error: SET failed on device wlan0; Network is down

# iwconfig wlan0 mode managed (is accepted but Linux returns no output)

Julianvb

Last edited by julianvb; 11-12-2013 at 05:26 PM.
 
Old 11-16-2013, 02:35 PM   #2
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Can you please provide the results of 'cat /etc/network/interfaces'?
 
Old 11-16-2013, 09:22 PM   #3
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2013-11-16

'cat /etc/network/interfaces' results in the following Browser Linux response:
No such file or directory

Even on my working Browser Linux machine such a file does not exist in the /etc/network/. Instead /etc/network/ contains some sudirectories.

On the other hand, my Ubuntu 12.04 machine that is directly connected to the wireless router outputs the following in response to 'cat /etc/network/interfaces':
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

Thanks for your input.

julianvb
 
Old 11-17-2013, 08:15 AM   #4
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'connects to the Internet well using the same wireless adapter in Ubuntu 12.04'

So when posting the answer to the previous question, try again with the working usb wireless connector in use on that machine
 
Old 11-17-2013, 11:18 AM   #5
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Browser Linux DHCP Problem

I've been using the same USB port (connector) for this wireless adapter for the past two years. Thanks.

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Old 11-17-2013, 11:41 AM   #6
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'I've been using the same USB port (connector) for this wireless adapter for the past two years. Thanks.'

Good for you. Obviously, though, not with your current distro. What I asked was that when sending the results from your ubuntu machine you tell us what they are *when the 0x46 dongle is connected. What you supplied dos nothing to help people solve your problem. 'It won't work on system a, but here is the result when *not* using it on system b on which it would work. Helpful? No way
 
Old 11-17-2013, 08:30 PM   #7
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Hi Norman,

I must be very dense since I don't quite follow your writing. Perhaps I've provided too much data or information.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let me attempt to simplify my story. I'm testing two computers with the same wireless-g adapter in Browser Linux, one at a time. When I say Browser Linux, I mean Browser Linux Live CD.

** Computer A(Normally runs windows XP): No wireless trouble at all with Browser Linux or Windows XP.

** Computer B(Normally runs Ubuntu): No wireless trouble at all with Ubuntu 12.04, but Browser Linux fails to connect to the wireless router even though it detects both the wireless network and adapter.

I hope this helps clarify the confusion.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------o--------------------
By the way I've been using Ubuntu for 2 years, and Windows some 20 years. I like Browser Linux very much because it simplifies Internet browsing greatly for my spouse. Personally I use Linux most of the time.

Julianvb

Last edited by julianvb; 11-20-2013 at 08:07 PM. Reason: typo
 
Old 11-17-2013, 09:05 PM   #8
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Code:
cat /etc/DISTRO_SPECS
Do that while in browser linux.

Also. Open PupSysInfo go to 'System Specs' and select 'Distro Specs'
What does it say.

I got a feeling you are running Puppy 4.01. Who's kernel does not support your usb as well as Ubuntu newer kernel does.

Code:
uname -r
will give Browser Linux Kernel version.

Lastly. Since Browser Linux is based on Puppy. Plus you seem to be pretty skilled at running Linux.

Here ya go

I have a feeling your usb is newer than Browser Linux was made with that older kernel with older modules. You might be able to shoe horn a .pet driver/firmware that is newer
than what Browser Linux came with. My 128MB SD Puppy install picking up my newer Acer Aspire dual core 5534 Lappy top.
It is lightweight and newer than Browser Linux and fit just fine on my 128MB SD Flash drive.
http://forums.solydxk.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1858
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/vie...2576&start=270
My wireless works just fine on that 2009 lappy top.
Good luck and Happy Trails, Rok

Edit: I think/know I found you.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtop...953b35d770aec9
Maybe you will have better luck there. Though I see you posted there a week ago and no replies.

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Old 11-17-2013, 09:21 PM   #9
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Reading

https://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x

Quote:
Non-free firmware is required for all drivers,
http://packages.debian.org/search?ke...rmware-realtek

so you might have to incorporate that into your Puppy 4 search on that link I gave you.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/vie...04f5af2b5dce7h

Also Rasberry PI's seem to struggle with your usb
 
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:06 PM   #10
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Roki,

A couple of hours ago I responded to your replies but I don't see trace of my responses.

Browser Linux in response to 'cat /etc/DISTRO_SPECS' produced:
DISTRO_NAME'='Lucid Puppy'
DISTRO_VERSION=510
DISTRO_MINOR_VERSION=00
DISTRO_BINARY_COMPAT='ubuntu'
DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX='lupu'
DISTRO_KERNEL_PET='Linux_kernel-2.6.33.2-tickless_smp_patched-L3.pet'

Browser Linux in response to 'uname -r' produced:
2.6.33.2

The same machine is running Ubuntu 12.4 under Linux 3.2.0-23-generic-pae.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
(2) I've just tried once more to put the usb wirelss adapter's installation CD to work but only in vain.

# unzip -l RTL8191SU*.zip --> revealed 17 files
# unzip RTL8191SU*.zip --> produced many checkdir errors
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
(3) I am beginning to wonder if it's more useful to look into SD Puppy as a replacement if it's
equally use-friendly with regard to web surfing.

Thanks very much again.

Julianvb
 
Old 11-20-2013, 05:29 PM   #11
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In that http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/vie...04f5af2b5dce7h link I posted.

There is a folder named RTL8192SU in a picture of the file manager in Fluppy. Fluppy has been discontinued and Carolina has been
the successor to Fluppy Linux.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81312

Quote:
3) I am beginning to wonder if it's more useful to look into SD Puppy as a replacement if it's
equally use-friendly with regard to web surfing.
What you call SD Puppy is actually Guy Dog 5.0.1 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72576

I mainly used it because it is Debian based and fit on a 128MB SD Flash drive. It runs quite well with Firefox 25
and flash 11 but I run it on a dual core, 4gig ram laptop. It is a very lean distro and lib dependency is sparse
when I decide to install external applications, even something as small as a cli music player like moc.
So user friendly, maybe so or maybe not. Depends on the person running it I guess. I am comfy running tint2
and Window Manager type of Desktops plus things like Zathura PDF reader which is not newbie friendly but
fast as hell and powerful enough. The card is for my wifes laptop, and so I am not on it right now, as she
is on Windows 7 instead.
 
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:15 PM   #12
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2013-11-21
Roki,

Thanks for introducing Guy Dog to me. I downloaded the iso file and made a live CD with it last night.

Thus far all the wireless-network symptoms remain the same as those exhibited by Browser Linux. The so-called 'friendly' machine still works with both Puppies in wireless mode and the 'incompatible' one remains incompatible, in spite of the fact that Guy Dog is based on a more recent version of the Linux kernel.

Tonight I decided to use Ndiswrapper to create a driver for the IOgear wireless-n adapter, which has been working very well with the so-called 'incompatible' computer in Utuntu 12.04. Everything went OK until I issued the 'make' command, which Guy Dog rejected. In other words, it's not in its Linux vocabulary.

I tend to think that these Puppies don't work well with newer wireless adapters. In any case, I think Guy Dog is less limited than Browser Linux even though I still like Browser Linux's utter simplicity. This problem with a paricular adpater or two does not bother me much. I only wish that someone would add a print-screen feature to BL and fix its printing software. That would really make BL a gem as far as I am concerned.

Julianvb

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Old 11-21-2013, 11:23 PM   #13
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Everything went OK until I issued the 'make' command, which Guy Dog rejected. In other words, it's not in its Linux vocabulary.
Yeah, I never got a answer to

Quote:
Anybody have a devx.sfs link for the Puppy?
In that Guy Dog thread yet, which would enable the make command. It is the equivalent of "build-essential" package in Debian or Ubuntu.
I asked that back in Oct. and all I got was a hit on finding the " Kernel_sources/kernel-2.6.39.4/kernel_sources-2.6.39-4.sfs "
but even another member told me

Quote:
If you manage to get devx I wouldn't mind a copy for my collection since I didn't always grab one when I tried some pups.
The problem with getting a devx.sfs is that it has to match the kernel/woof_build/distro with the distro you want to install it into.
Anyways, No joy yet. If I find one I'll upload it to a free download site and pm you the link. Don't get your hopes up though.

Edit: Kinda off topic. Maybe Slitaz, Tinycore, AntiX core or base install may serve your needs better.
If I am off base, sorry.

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Old 11-22-2013, 12:19 PM   #14
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2013-11-22
Roki,

Thanks very much for the new input. I'll try to put it to use.

Julianvb
 
Old 12-03-2013, 02:48 PM   #15
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Hey Julian

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/vie...=739962#739962

Quote:
Hi

I am able to hand you a


guydog-5.0.1.iso
kernel_sources-2.6.39-4.sfs
devx_guydog_5.0.1.sfs


But have no cloud service yet


Use GuyDoc with XFCE4.6 and VMWare player runs great.

Downloaded to DropBox view Files in DropBox
Edit added DropBox Link.
Last edited by deepsea on Sun 01 Dec 2013, 02:07; edited 2 times in total

added to the archive also

http://archive.org/details/PuppyLinuxguydog-5.0.1
 
  


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