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View Poll Results: What browser(s) are you using?
Mozilla 16 36.36%
Firefox 21 47.73%
Netscape 0 0%
Konqueror 8 18.18%
IE - Emulated 1 2.27%
Links 3 6.82%
Links - graphics 1 2.27%
Opera 4 9.09%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-23-2004, 09:46 AM   #1
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Browser clash :D


Okay, I'm at my limits here... every browser I've tried so far simply killed my CPU.

Mozilla - Works, but it takes more to render the page than to load it...
Firefox - well, 500 Mhz is not enough. 30% CPU with pne page, ni animations.
Konqueror - Same thing as with Mozilla. Slow when opening tabs, slow when poping out dialog boxes (JS and stuff), but renders a bit faster and a bit crappier than Mozilla
Netscape - NS7.2 is based on Mozilla, so it would be the same thing
IExplore - Emulated with wine. I thing I've said enough
Links - THE browser. My favorite for quick-searches and stuff
Links (hacked - graphical & tabbed) - As I said. THE browser. If not for the lame CSS integration (dunno if it uses that) and some HTML compatibility issues, I would've quit using any other browser.
Opera - hate it. Simply Hate it. A bit faster than the competition, but it's not for my tastes. I even crashed it a few times (I couldn't do that with Firefox). I've seen strange stuff happening on Opera...

I've got a 500Mhz K6-3 with 384 megs, GF2MX400, 64megs. So, what browser are you using and what browser would you recommend? (MDK 10.0 w/ 2.6.8 kernel)
 
Old 08-23-2004, 10:47 AM   #2
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Well that's really strange because I've never noticed mozilla run that slow at all...

Even installed on my parents machine which is a 333 with 128 MB (experienced in both windows and linux) it runs fine. I don't experience any major slow down. Maybe there is some other issue possibly?
 
Old 08-23-2004, 10:57 AM   #3
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Thumbs up

Konqueror, and it works almost as fast as Firefox for me.
 
Old 08-23-2004, 11:54 AM   #4
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You should have put as well Galeon (the one i use), but after that, Firefox
 
Old 08-23-2004, 12:03 PM   #5
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on windows or on linux Opera is the BEST!!!!

he who hates it asks me y??? well:

1. its fast... faster then all of the others... of all those on the list i haven't used Links... and Netscape was a long time ago... years... and by my experience Opera is the fastest...
2. its very stable... hardly ever crashes even on windows!... with many windows open each filled to the brim with tabs...
3. maximises use of my screen... ie i get less browser and more webpage on my screen... i mean who wants to see falling stars and an 'N' .. or Godzilla on a venetian blind... dont even mention the 'e'...
4. the features on this baby are on point all the way... from the built-in mail client to irc chat thingy to magic wand (to remember passwords) to options to reopen tabs you've closed by accident to pop-up blocker to download manager to starting straight into preset browsing sessions or previous sessions to zoom function... u can even browse sites leaving out the images.. hello faster browsing for dialup!
5. this is another feature but deserves mentioning by itself.... make way for mouse gestures... web browsing has never been the same since...

few other browsers may have similar 'wannabe' features as seen in Opera... but none comes close to putting them together in the seamlessly integrated, funtional and aesthetically pleasing way that only Opera knows how to...

ps. i dont work for opera but the hate expressed was uncalled for ... so i had to come to opera's defense... lest they change something and try to become like one of those other browsers..
 
Old 08-23-2004, 12:06 PM   #6
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i mostly use mozilla and firefox, and lynx when i'm not in the gui. but actually galeon seems like the fastest gui browser to me (except for the eunuch browser dillo ). maybe that's b/c i have a relatively fast cpu, but on my comptuer it's noticeably faster than moz/fox.
 
Old 08-23-2004, 12:35 PM   #7
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Thats very strange that mozilla is so slow. I've a laptop with a 550 celeron, 192 RAM and MDK10 and it runs just fine. Check what mozilla rpms you have installed. If you have devel ones, erase them. Also, try a live-cd like Suse Live CD or Knoppix to see if it is a distro problem or general problem.
 
Old 08-23-2004, 12:43 PM   #8
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Okay, now I'm on mozilla, I have one tab with yahoo, another two with LQ forums, and it took me 3 secs to render the page you are reading right now. I know this because the logo freezes and my CPU is at 100%.
 
Old 08-23-2004, 01:02 PM   #9
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Sorry for double-posting, kde crashed and locked-up my keyboard. . The truth is i kind-of forgot about Epiphany and Galeon, but as I recall, they're built on Mozilla. I liked Firefox. A LOT. It was the browser I was happily using until I had to "down-grade" my PC .

Okay, something to think about... Windows XP, my PC, AMD K6-II+ @ 500Mhz, VIA MVP3 MB, 384 MB RAM, NVidia GeForce2 MX 400, 64 MB RAM, HDD Seagate ST360020A 60 GB, with the latest via 4-in-1 drivers (4.51), and the latest NVidia drivers (61.77 or whatever they are), Counter-Strike 1.5. 25 fps on fy_iceworld (one on one), 14-7 fps on larger maps on LAN with 6-12 players. Someone told me I should be able to run CS @ 24 fps with WINE (!).

And if I try using Firefox, it uses 30% of my CPU with only one tab open. Mozilla seems slow. From the slowest mozilla-based browsers I'm using the most stable and most reliable... Mozilla 1.6. If Links-graphics would be more compilant with today's standards, I would've used it on a daily basis. I'm using it when I need graphics and a quick-start-up.
 
Old 08-23-2004, 03:28 PM   #10
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Thats very strange that mozilla is so slow. I've a laptop with a 550 celeron, 192 RAM and MDK10 and it runs just fine. Check what mozilla rpms you have installed. If you have devel ones, erase them. Also, try a live-cd like Suse Live CD or Knoppix to see if it is a distro problem or general problem.
 
Old 08-24-2004, 04:26 AM   #11
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I've told you about CS... It shouldn't be running that awful. A friend of mines has a 300Mhz Pentium with 256 MB ram, same video card ans OS and plays it @ 25 fps no matter what. It takes about 15-25 secs to fire up mozilla, then when I'm borwsing the mouse freezes and stuff like this. Mozilla uses 15% of my CPU with one single tab open. The page? The post-reply page of LQ.org on this thread... Hmmm... I don't want to say what happens when I have some flash animations on-screen
 
Old 08-24-2004, 04:42 AM   #12
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I can't believe someone voted "IE - Emulated". There's something very wrong with that person.

On KDE Konqueror is by far the fastest for me (only tried KDE on Mandrake), tab and dialog appearance speeds are higher then Mozilla's, waaay higher the Firefox's. Rendering speeds are about the same for all of those, though Gecko ofcourse wins Quality-wise.

I now use Gnome 2.6 on Slackware, whitch almost seems faster then FluxBox on Mandrake (Mandrake is slow) and Mozilla Suite wins in all categories. Firefox has always been slow for me, people tell me it's supposed to be faster then Mozilla Suite, but it isn't for me, not by far.

Anyway, your list is incomplete. What about the gnome browsers: Epiphany and Galeon.
 
Old 08-24-2004, 06:28 AM   #13
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Mozilla - slow on my PC
Firefox rocks. Using it
Konqueror -- annoying don't know why is more of a file manager than a browser IMO
lynx is fun in command line surfing
 
Old 08-24-2004, 02:47 PM   #14
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@Haiyadragon: Well, believe it or not, it runs well even on my computer. I just Hate M$/IE, that's why I don't use it. CrossOver Office does a pretty good job in emulating IE, I was using it jkust like I did in Windows. Old habits die hard

About the Epiphany/Galeon, as I know they're based on Mozilla, so it would be [almost] be the same thing. I haven't used them myslef, so that's why they were not in the list. Sorry once again
 
Old 08-24-2004, 09:10 PM   #15
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seriously... am i the only one who uses opera?!?!?! must mean i'm special ... or everybody else is slow to catch up
 
  


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