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Old 02-03-2004, 10:31 PM   #16
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Interesting. Does it color PHP code as well?
This what you're looking for?
http://quanta.sourceforge.net/screens/mainwindow01.png
 
Old 02-03-2004, 10:45 PM   #17
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Yes, that is. Thank you!
 
Old 02-03-2004, 11:36 PM   #18
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Re: Before I start using Linux, I need to know that these apps exist for it

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My family has used Macs primarily for years now, but we are considering replacing our oldest Mac with a PC running Linux.
Most macusers would hate linux because it has all the unuser-friendliness of dos/windows times 10. However, that's a generalization and you may be a very technical mac user who has no problem doing command line stuff, etc.

Also I second the vote for quanta for html editing, although it has it's flaws.


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Old 02-04-2004, 08:06 AM   #19
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Another thought: when you get your PC, install FreeBSD on it and install Darwin. Mac OSX look and feel, and the same OS underneath.
 
Old 02-04-2004, 09:57 AM   #20
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Another thought: when you get your PC, install FreeBSD on it and install Darwin. Mac OSX look and feel, and the same OS underneath.
Wouldn't that give me only a CLI and not a GUI?
 
Old 02-04-2004, 10:04 AM   #21
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Re: Re: Before I start using Linux, I need to know that these apps exist for it

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Most macusers would hate linux because it has all the unuser-friendliness of dos/windows times 10. However, that's a generalization and you may be a very technical mac user who has no problem doing command line stuff, etc.

Also I second the vote for quanta for html editing, although it has it's flaws.
I am aware of Linux's unintuitiveness (mostly due to the UI being designed by coders instead of usability experts), but most of what we will be using on Linux we already use on our Mac (ex: Mozilla Firebird is my favorite browser). It's true that most people would have no clue what to do with a CLI, but like I said I do have experience with the UNIX CLI (bash and tcsh). I'm no expert, but I know more about it than most people who know nothing about it.
 
Old 02-04-2004, 11:57 AM   #22
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the good thing about linux is that thsoe coders that make teh software, thers like a lot of them each working on difrent projects that do teh same thing, jsut a bit difrently, soo if usability is what u want, then theres most likley some coder that made what you want, or somthing simuar enough so that you can use it,

as for that enciclipedia, u might jsut wanna stick with google as most of the time things change
 
Old 02-04-2004, 03:01 PM   #23
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Wouldn't that give me only a CLI and not a GUI?
FreeBSD probably had an X server before Linux (nut I may be wrong). Darwin is the GUI you're used to with Mac (for PC). If you've seen a GUI linux box, you already know what a FreeBSD GUI looks like (actually, you have more choices than most mainstream distros, rivalled by perhaps Debian). OSX was built upon FreeBSD.
 
Old 02-04-2004, 03:50 PM   #24
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FreeBSD probably had an X server before Linux (nut I may be wrong). Darwin is the GUI you're used to with Mac (for PC). If you've seen a GUI linux box, you already know what a FreeBSD GUI looks like (actually, you have more choices than most mainstream distros, rivalled by perhaps Debian). OSX was built upon FreeBSD.
Darwin = Quartz (PDF-based vector graphics system) and Aqua? "Welcome to Darwin!" is the message I get when I start a new Terminal shell (CLI app).
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Beneath the appealing, easy-to-use interface of Mac OS X is a rock-solid foundation that is engineered for stability, reliability, and performance. This foundation is a core operating system commonly known as Darwin. Darwin integrates a number of technologies, most importantly Mach 3.0, operating-system services based on 4.4BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution), high-performance networking facilities, and support for multiple integrated file systems.
 
Old 02-04-2004, 04:31 PM   #25
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I stand corrected. I was thinking of The GNU-Darwin Project .

FreeBSD Mach and a nice GUI. You can have it look the way you want it to.
 
Old 02-06-2004, 10:17 AM   #26
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I must say, this board has been extremely helpful so far, so thanks! I've compiled a list of various info I have about Linux into a text file listing software I am planning on using with Linux. I would really appreciate it if you would look at the list and tell me what you think. Thanks in advance.

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Old 02-06-2004, 06:43 PM   #27
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From The List:

"Basic RTF text-editor (ala TextEdit/WordPad)*" - hard to avoid. If you install KDE or Gnome, you'll have that taken care of (kedit, kate, gedit) and likely you'll have access to xedit as well.

"QuickTime for Linux*" - Xine and Mplayer will likely play quicktime files so you may not have to duplicate.

Evolution is a popular email client (and sorta PIM) for those who are use to the "Outlook" interface. Thunderbird is more along the lines of the "OE" 3-panel look. They'll both function well (I think that Thunderbird has one up with built-in benysian spam filtering, though - can be added as another package). Choose the interface that suits you.

Your sherlock-like app will likely be satisfied by konqueror or Nautilus for the most part, I bet. You'll pick up more along the way. Looks like good choices so far. If you wanna browse distros when you get the hardware, burn (or order) the live cds out there to test things before you settle on a distro of choice. Shame ther isn't a live cd for Fedora. There are a lot to choose from now. Debian ones like Knopix, Morphix, Gnoppix, Mepis, etc. Mandrakemove, SUSE livecd, Slax, etc (even Dynabolic, which is a video/audio editing suite on cd - neat stuff), and the new Mame-based game cd. You'll have fun.
 
Old 02-06-2004, 07:34 PM   #28
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So does the Darwin distro have the same look and feel as Mac OSX? Kinda confused with the mixture of comments
 
Old 02-06-2004, 07:42 PM   #29
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So does the Darwin distro have the same look and feel as Mac OSX? Kinda confused with the mixture of comments
There are screenshots on the site. Follow the link I posted. Its pretty! Regardless, any *nix can be made to look like anything at all. Want XP? install xpde. Want Windows 95? Install qvwm. Want OSX aqua? install anything you want and get the aqua mods and buttons (KDE and Gnome can be made to look like it - probably XFCE, if someone was resourceful enough. Enlightenment can be a bang-off for sure). I caused this confusion by posting after my buddy weiser visited, and before I regained my senses. sorry for the confusion.
 
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So does the Darwin distro have the same look and feel as Mac OSX? Kinda confused with the mixture of comments
No. Darwin has a command-line interface (purely text, no icons or the like). It is the core of Mac OS X, but not the UI. If you want to see what OS X looks like, view an on-demand screenshot of my Mac.
 
  


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