aterm -bl works in KDE, not in fluxbox

kersten78 · 10-14-2004, 06:08 PM

I'm running aterm 0.4.2, KDE 3.2, and fluxbox 0.1.14
For some reason

Code:

 aterm -bl

works in KDE but not in Fluxbox.
In fluxbox, it returns

Code:

 aterm: bad option "-bl"

But in KDE, it works fine--pops up a borderless aterm with no complaints. Anyone know why this might be? I'm thinking "-bl" might be a KDE specific option rather than an aterm option. If this is the case, does anyone know how to run programs without borders in flux?

Hangdog42 · 10-14-2004, 09:16 PM

If you are using a devel version of fluxbox you can set up your ~/.fluxbox/apps file with an entry like this:

[app] (aterm)
[Deco] {NONE}

That should run it without borders

kersten78 · 10-14-2004, 09:43 PM

I'm using Fluxbox 0.1.14. The main reason I haven't switched to a devel version yet is because I don't know if I could live without external tabs. They're soooo handy. I can't even use KDE or gnome anymore...I can't use anything buy flux now. I wish they'd make it an option to place the tabs externally rather than in the title bar in the devel versions.
Anyway, I don't have an apps file in either /usr/X11R6/share/fluxbox or in ~/.fluxbox, so I doubt that it will work with 0.1.14. Maybe I'll try creating an apps file and see what happens. Thanks for the info, Hangdog.

Hangdog42 · 10-14-2004, 09:52 PM

Don't bother with the apps file. That was introduced well after 0.1.14. In fact if I remember correctly, fluxbox didn't add the ability to run without borders until later as well. I might be wrong about that, but 0.1.14 is a couple of years old. However you still may want to give the devel version a try. The lack of the tabs really isn't as bad as you think.

kersten78 · 10-14-2004, 09:55 PM

I think I will give a devel version a try. Is it possible to install another version side by side with my current version? I'm afraid the location of the configuration files may cause a problem.
Also, I'm kind of surprised that Slack 10 comes with such an old version of Flux....I wonder what the reasoning is.
edit: Ok, so 0.1.14 is the last "stable" version...although 2 years old.

Hangdog42 · 10-15-2004, 07:08 AM

I highly doubt that the stable and devel versions will co-exist nicely. I think it is one or the other. The good news is that Slack DOES come with the devel version, it is just in the extra folder along with a few other goodies.

mikshaw · 10-16-2004, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kersten78
I think I will give a devel version a try. Is it possible to install another version side by side with my current version? I'm afraid the location of the configuration files may cause a problem.

You can run both side by side without trouble if you use a different rc file for fluxbox devel.
You'll need to install from source in order to prevent overwriting the stable files, and you'll probably need to start flux stable with a full path from now on, or rename the devel binary.

Before starting Fluxbox devel:

cd $HOME/.fluxbox
Create a new init file for fluxbox devel. Easiest way would probably be
cp init dev-init

Edit $HOME/.fluxbox/dev-init, changing paths to something other than the configs listed (I used "dev-filename" for everything).

Start Fluxbox devel with "/path/to/fluxbox -rc $HOME/.fluxbox/dev-init".

Keep in mind that if you start flux devel without the -rc option, it will use the configs from flux stable, and things might not look and behave exactly right.

kersten78 · 10-16-2004, 01:10 PM

mikshaw, thanks for the info. I have the source downloaded and ready to ./configure, but I'm not sure if I need to change the path to prevent it from installing over my current fluxbox installation. Do I need to use the options

Code:

  --prefix=PREFIX         install architecture-independent files in PREFIX
                          [/usr/local]
  --exec-prefix=EPREFIX   install architecture-dependent files in EPREFIX
                          [PREFIX]

It looks like if I change the prefix, the exec-prefix will change automatically. Is this the case? I just really don't want to screw up my current install in case I can't stand the new tabs.

Hangdog, is the devel version installed with the full Slack 10 install? or is it something I need to pull off the extra CD's that come with it? If it is installed with the full version, where might I find it?

EDIT: I just looked around a bit, and I'm wondering what to do about all the flux files in /usr/X11R6/share/fluxbox and also the /usr/X11R6/bin/fluxbox and /usr/X11R6/bin/fluxbox-generate_menu binaries? Will installing the devel version mess with those?

Hangdog42 · 10-16-2004, 02:46 PM

I think that the development fluxbox is on one of the extra CDs. Of course you can also download it from your favorite Slackware mirror.

I would assume that using the Slackware package would indeed mess with those X11 files. However, most of the files you've modified are likely to be in your ~/.fluxbox directory and the Slacware package shouldn't mess with those.

kersten78 · 10-16-2004, 03:20 PM

I got some help from #fluxbox on freenode. I ran configure, make, and then
make DESTDIR=/my/devel/path install
and it worked without a hitch. I did have to edit the new init file to use the right menu file, etc. but it's working right now. The new tabs are not at all what I imagined them to be. I guess I was thinking of the old tabs just moved down into the title bar. It's more like a split title bar rather than tabs in the old sense. Pretty awesome. I'm going to play with it for a while, but I'm already impressed. I'm sure it will take over soon enough. Thanks for the help everybody.