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Old 07-25-2016, 02:21 AM   #1
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Any way to get Audacity without libwxgtk3.0-0?


I can't keep audacity running. I open the file, as I'm finding the place where I want to place the next track, it freezes. When I restart, it freezes again and again.
I could do it in windows (rock solid), but the linux and windows versions are different when it comes to exporting files (same # version).

I read the version with "libwxgtk3.anything" crashes in linux. Mine, the latest one has it. I added the audacity PPA to get it.

The one in the software manager I can get has the libwxgtk3.0-0 also.

How can I get a verson without libwxgtk3?

Thank you,
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Old 07-25-2016, 05:11 AM   #2
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Just for info, I have libwxgtk3.0-0:amd64 installed and Audacity seems to be working for me.

However, it might be something particular that you are doing. Can you please give me a step by step description of what you are doing to cause the freeze and I will try to replicate it.
 
Old 07-25-2016, 06:17 AM   #3
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Have you tried running through a terminal to see if you get a more specific error message? What version of Ubuntu are you running and exactly which PPA are you using?
 
Old 07-25-2016, 06:22 AM   #4
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I added the audacity PPA to get it.
? Why ?
'audacity' is available from the Ubuntu universe repo : All Ubuntu versions.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?ke...searchon=names
 
Old 07-26-2016, 01:43 AM   #5
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@happydog500

? Why ?
'audacity' is available from the Ubuntu universe repo : All Ubuntu versions.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?ke...searchon=names

Because it's not supposed to be there. I downloaded that one and couldn't keep it running. Crashed all the time. I got rid of it and went with the newest one. I was able to use the newest one without to much problems.

I had to do a clean install, when I did, the newest one freezes all the time.

I searched the internet and found all over the place, people having the same problem. This is not just me, there is a problem with it. It has been stated the wrong one is in the repository. The people who have problems all have one with libwxgtk3.anything. If you get one without "3" it works.

One person replaced the libwxgtk3. with a 2-somthing and it fixed it.

The same files in Windows audacity work flawless.

Chris.
 
Old 07-26-2016, 01:49 AM   #6
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Have you tried running through a terminal to see if you get a more specific error message? What version of Ubuntu are you running and exactly which PPA are you using?
I got the last one from "ubuntuhandbook1/audacity." I uninstalled it late last night. I think it was 2.2.1, or 2.1.2, something like that.

Over the last few days, I've tried lots of different versions from the audacity website, and the reop.

Thank you,
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:57 AM   #7
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Just for info, I have libwxgtk3.0-0:amd64 installed and Audacity seems to be working for me.

However, it might be something particular that you are doing. Can you please give me a step by step description of what you are doing to cause the freeze and I will try to replicate it.
1. add file to audacity, when I play the file, after a few seconds, it freezes. I close audicity and try another file, same thing. Sometimes I can click the cursor and play the file, if it's not in the right spot, I click on another place, trying to find where to put the track marker. After a couple times, it freezes.

I noticed on one track, when I get to a loud part, that's where it freezes. Most of the time it will only run for a second or two.

I'm a week late on this project, wish I would of realized this and started it in Windows. I'd of been done a week a go. The one in Windows doesn't save the same as linux.

Using Linux Mint 17.3 Xfce.

Thank you,
Chris.

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Old 07-26-2016, 02:09 AM   #8
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Just installed it again from software manager. Froze the first time.


Chris.
 
Old 07-26-2016, 05:37 AM   #9
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Just installed it again from software manager. Froze the first time.


Chris.
Did you properly remove the old package, its unused dependencies and its data before you reinstalled it though?

I'll walk you through it.

Can you please paste the output from the command dpkg -l audacity*
 
Old 07-27-2016, 02:01 AM   #10
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Did you properly remove the old package, its unused dependencies and its data before you reinstalled it though?

I'll walk you through it.

Can you please paste the output from the command dpkg -l audacity*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture Description
+++-==============-============-============-=================================
ii audacity 2.1.2-1~14.0 amd64 fast, cross-platform audio editor

Thank you for the help,
Chris.

P.S. How do you like Mint KDE?
 
Old 07-27-2016, 05:16 AM   #11
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Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture Description
+++-==============-============-============-=================================
ii audacity 2.1.2-1~14.0 amd64 fast, cross-platform audio editor

Thank you for the help,
Chris.

P.S. How do you like Mint KDE?
Right, what we're going to do is totally remove the existing version and then install the repo version. In my limited experience, the different dependencies installed for media applications can cause interference with each other, so if you've been installing different versions of Audacity and other media packages then you may already have a tangle web of dependencies there, but hopefully not.

One good idea is to make a copy of your partition(s) before you do anything complicated so that you can easily revert if things go awry. You may want to do that now - it's up to you.

Anyway, first we'll make sure everything package-wise is up to date and clean, with no packages held back etc.

Code:
sudo apt-get check
This checks for broken dependencies. Hopefully it will produce no output. If it does, please list it here and don't run the next step.

If all was ok with the previous command, then

Code:
sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get upgrade
Don't go through with the latter command (i.e. select 'n' when the choice if offered), just list the output here so we can see what the situation is.

Mint KDE 17.3 has been great to use (I don't have a limited resource laptop so it works fine for me). I'm not so sure I like the flatter look of Plasma 5, which will be the version used in Mint KDE 18, and I am not a great fan of KDE's disrespect for their users in the way they reinvent the wheel and produce not-fit-for-purpose new versions every few years, so I was seriously thinking of switching to Mint 18 Xfce. However, after a few hours of playing around with the Mint 18 Xfce beta, pimping it and trying to find good alternatives for e.g. Dolphin and Kate, I've decided to hold off and at least try Mint 18 KDE when it comes out (by most accounts, Plasma 5 has more or less stabilised by now). It will mean a fresh install since the differences between KDE 4 and 5 mean that Mint won't be providing an upgrade path from Mint KDE 17.3.

To summarise it, I don't like the KDE ethos, I far prefer the slow calm development ethos of Cinnamon/Mate/Xfce, but I love using their desktop environment. Whether I continue doing so into Plasma 5 remains open to my testing of the Mint 18 KDE version (Mint are pretty good at pimping their desktop environments and may actually get it working well and looking good).
 
Old 07-27-2016, 01:03 PM   #12
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~ $ sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
base-files grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common libgbm1
linux-firmware linux-libc-dev xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid
9 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 38.6 MB of archives.
After this operation, 37.9 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]


When I did n, I got;

~ $ n
n: command not found


Seems like when I liked KDE (90's?) it was real good. I want to go back to it but now it seems like a mess.

Chris.

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Old 07-27-2016, 01:37 PM   #13
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So, no output from sudo apt-get check? Good.

You seem to have quit the upgrade command, or somehow it quit itself, before hitting the 'n', which is why it interpreted your 'n' as a command. Or else you hit the 'n' key twice - the first one quit the upgrade command, the second one was interpreted as a command by the shell. Don't worry about it.

On a general level, you should think about upgrading those packages (i.e. hitting 'y' next time). If, while installing, Grub talks about a new config file clashing with an old one, keep the old one.

Anyway, whether you decide to do that or not, the next move is to remove audacity:

Code:
sudo apt-get --purge autoremove audacity
Then, to delete your personal Audacity settings, delete the directory .audacity-data in your home directory.

Let me know how it goes.

I don't think KDE Plasma 5 is as much of a mess now. It *was*, but finally I think they've got a handle on it. It's this big period of "not fit for purpose" KDE has between a new version being released and it being useable that's the problem. But of course, you don't need to upgrade it until it is useable if you don't want to. I think it should be worth a go in Mint 18.

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Old 07-27-2016, 02:10 PM   #14
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So, no output from sudo apt-get check? Good.

You seem to have quit the upgrade command, or somehow it quit itself, before hitting the 'n', which is why it interpreted your 'n' as a command. Or else you hit the 'n' key twice - the first one quit the upgrade command, the second one was interpreted as a command by the shell. Don't worry about it.

On a general level, you should think about upgrading those packages (i.e. hitting 'y' next time). If, while installing, Grub talks about a new config file clashing with an old one, keep the old one.

Anyway, whether you decide to do that or not, the next move is to remove audacity:

Code:
sudo apt-get --purge autoremove audacity
Then, to delete your personal Audacity settings, delete the directory .audacity-data in your home directory.

Let me know how it goes.

I don't think KDE Plasma 5 is as much of a mess now. It *was*, but finally I think they've got a handle on it. It's this big period of "not fit for purpose" KDE has between a new version being released and it being useable that's the problem. But of course, you don't need to upgrade it until it is useable if you don't want to. I think it should be worth a go in Mint 18.
I did what you suggested. In what way do you suggest I install audacity?

Thank you again,
Chris.
 
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I did what you suggested. In what way do you suggest I install audacity?

Thank you again,
Chris.
First of all, run Synaptics Package Manager and choose Settings->Repositories. Click on both PPAs and Additional repositories and uncheck any Audacity-related PPAs you find there.

Then, install the version from the official repo with:

Code:
sudo apt-get install audacity
If the above command produces any dependency-related warnings, don't go through with it and paste the output here.
 
  


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