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Old 04-17-2014, 02:38 AM   #16
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There's no reason not to get the latest version. That's what I have. Ubuntu uses .deb files as packages not .rpm. I use dpkg -i to install them. They wind up getting up in the /opt/libreoffice4.2 folder.
For the purposes of aptitude/apt-get the name of the package would be libreoffice4.2-base and the name of the package file would be something like libreoffice4.2-base_4.2.3.3-3_amd64.deb. Note that the Libreoffice installation involves a large number of packages and libreoffice4.2-base is just one of them.
So to recap, you want the latest version and I'd suggest getting via the Libreoffice website rather than using your repos. That's what I do in any event. Don't forget to also get the language pack and the help pack if you're using a language other than American English.
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Thanks jdk. But if I get it from the LO site I'm just downloading it by clicking on the version I want, right? Which would be the one I circled in the screenshot, right? Unless does it download a package (I'm so used to Windows still)? If it does I have a deb package uninstaller.

I'm getting closer to figuring this out (with your guys help!).
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Old 04-17-2014, 06:50 AM   #17
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It will give you the version that you have circled. You untar the file and use this command to install the packages in the DEBS folder that you have untarred.
1. Untar the tar.gz file using this command:
Code:
tar -zxvf <name of the tar.gz file>
2. Go into the new folder created by the above command and navigate to the DEBS folder.
3. Once in the DEBS folder give the following command:
Code:
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
And that will install the packages. It will probably put Libreoffice in the /opt folder in a subfolder called libreoffice4.2.
4. You can set up a desktop shortcup and point it to here: /opt/libreoffice4.2/program/swriter
5. And Bob's your uncle.
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Old 04-17-2014, 11:20 PM   #18
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It will give you the version that you have circled. You untar the file and use this command to install the packages in the DEBS folder that you have untarred.
1. Untar the tar.gz file using this command:
Code:
tar -zxvf <name of the tar.gz file>
2. Go into the new folder created by the above command and navigate to the DEBS folder.
3. Once in the DEBS folder give the following command:
Code:
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
And that will install the packages. It will probably put Libreoffice in the /opt folder in a subfolder called libreoffice4.2.
4. You can set up a desktop shortcup and point it to here: /opt/libreoffice4.2/program/swriter
5. And Bob's your uncle.
jdk
Thanks jdk! That did it. Me, nor Uncle Bob, are the best navigators of the terminal, but everything was just as you said. One thing I was suprised by was that my 4.1.3.2 LO has TNR as the default and the new one doesn't even have TNR on it! So I dowloaded that MS font package so now I've got it. And the new LO is listed under Office in the Applications Menu so I didn't even have to do a desktop icon. I installed it on the laptop, and I'm wondering if I should install it on the others (I have two Xubuntu desktops) right away or wait until the new Xubuntu 14.04 comes to pass. (This will be my first new version.) And the laptop is 12.04. I've never gotten a new version of that. Do you think I'll be getting one?

Anyway, things are shaping up nicely. I love the new LO. It's got some features the old one didn't. (the blue line for missed spaces, the curly--as opposed to straight--apostrophe). I'm excited to use it. Thanks again for all your help and seeing this thing through!
 
Old 04-18-2014, 12:57 AM   #19
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and I'm wondering if I should install it on the others (I have two Xubuntu desktops) right away or wait until the new Xubuntu 14.04 comes to pass. (This will be my first new version.) And the laptop is 12.04. I've never gotten a new version of that. Do you think I'll be getting one?
Assuming your 2 Xubuntu boxes are using a version that is still supported, then you can probably do that. In any event trying to install LO on those machines won't do any harm. As your uncle Bob would say, "Nothing ventured..."
Glad to hear your happy. Best wishes.
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Old 04-18-2014, 03:28 AM   #20
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Assuming your 2 Xubuntu boxes are using a version that is still supported, then you can probably do that. In any event trying to install LO on those machines won't do any harm. As your uncle Bob would say, "Nothing ventured..."
Glad to hear your happy. Best wishes.
jdk
Me and Uncle Bob gathered up all our courage and installed it on one of the Xubuntu desktops. "No problema," Uncle Bob said as it came up on the screen! We will deal with the fallout of the new Xubuntu version coming through with equal fortitude. And we owe this new attitude all to you! I thank you! Uncle Bob thanks you!
 
Old 04-18-2014, 04:38 AM   #21
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Congratulations! You are now an LZM (Linux Zen Master). Your mission? Have fun.
cheers,
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Old 04-18-2014, 02:15 PM   #22
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Congratulations! You are now an LZM (Linux Zen Master). Your mission? Have fun.
cheers,
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:04 PM   #23
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Dragging out this thread even further

Regarding which version to choose: LO is programmable and you can use as much or as little memory as you require. So you can drop the latest version onto your old PC and tailor accordingly.

The "latest" version depends on how you want to use the software. Currently 4.1.5 is classed as the stable version. 4.2.x is still a solution for early adopters. I have attached a link from the mailing list which is unrelated to this thread but you can scroll down to Sophi's post (at this point, 3rd from last of 17 posts) to view an explanation of the version numbers.

FYI & HTH

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org...td4105573.html
 
Old 04-19-2014, 02:22 AM   #24
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Dragging out this thread even further

Regarding which version to choose: LO is programmable and you can use as much or as little memory as you require. So you can drop the latest version onto your old PC and tailor accordingly.

The "latest" version depends on how you want to use the software. Currently 4.1.5 is classed as the stable version. 4.2.x is still a solution for early adopters. I have attached a link from the mailing list which is unrelated to this thread but you can scroll down to Sophi's post (at this point, 3rd from last of 17 posts) to view an explanation of the version numbers.

FYI & HTH

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org...td4105573.html
Oh man! Thanks (I think!) Tim. I downloaded 4.2.3.1x86. There was no mention of "beta" or anything for that matter. So I'm on the verge of writing a novel and want to have this straight before I start. Should I now uninstall all the 4.2.3.1s and install the 4.1.5?

And I don't know what you mean by LO being programable and using as much memory as I want. And I do have the 4.2.3.1 on a very old (10years +) laptop and it works great.

Just read the Sophi post. So now, having 4.2.3.1 do I have to worry about having the Heartbleed bug? I'm thinking not because I wasn't on the webdav or cmis things. lol Oi vey!

So from what you said it looks like I should be using 4.1.5, right?

And why don't they have stuff explaining that on the (this is rhetorical) LO download page? Like 4.1.5 is stable and 4.2 is beta?

Oh well. Now at least I know how to install them. Uninstalling the 4.2.3.1 will be a new challenge. Any suggestions as to how it's done? (If you do, please go step-by-step and remember that I am not a Linux Zen Master no matter what jdk says).

Sorry if I was a little ranty. This was one of those 'don't shoot the messenger' things.

That was very valuable information you provided. Thank you. The 4.2.3.1 seems great, but I need stable more than great at this point and will indeed go back to the 4.1.5.
 
Old 04-19-2014, 06:07 AM   #25
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I would keep what you've got as long as your satisfied with its performance. Save all your docs and then back them up regularly and you'll have nothing to fear. I have been using the latest versions of L O for quite a well and have yet to encounter any difficulties with them. Let me reiterate: as long as you save all your documents (I also use an automatic backup while I'm working on something set to every 5 minutes) and back them up regularly you have very very very little to fear. Linux ain't Windows. And, as your Uncle Bob would say, "Don't get your knickers in a twist." An LZM is cool and unflappable above all other things.
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Old 04-19-2014, 02:49 PM   #26
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I would keep what you've got as long as your satisfied with its performance. Save all your docs and then back them up regularly and you'll have nothing to fear. I have been using the latest versions of L O for quite a well and have yet to encounter any difficulties with them. Let me reiterate: as long as you save all your documents (I also use an automatic backup while I'm working on something set to every 5 minutes) and back them up regularly you have very very very little to fear. Linux ain't Windows. And, as your Uncle Bob would say, "Don't get your knickers in a twist." An LZM is cool and unflappable above all other things.
jdk
Man, I'm getting my money's worth from the LQ forum. I came here for a little computer help, and I'm getting that and training in becoming a Linux Zen Master. (This is good stuff.) Fine, jdk. I'll hang with my unstable 4.2.3.1 (that may have the Heartbleed bug) at your word. As far as the backup stuff I'm looking at cloud backups now like iDrive and Cyphertite. The latter seems cool because it's open source and will sink all three of my computers (with the unstable, possibly Bleeding Hearts Bug virus LO on them) simultaneously and on the same account. Cyperhite also talks about continuous backup. I was only thinking of once a day but with this unstable, virus-infested 4.2.3.1 I'm now hanging with (at your urging!) I figure I better go with the continuous backup. Any Zen-like feedback on this?

An LZM is cool and unflappable above all other things.

I like that. I put it on my desktop. (I'll tell Uncle Bob.)
 
Old 04-20-2014, 01:16 AM   #27
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A couple of more things:
1. Libre Office prefers to call this release "Fresh" rather than "unstable".
2. The Heartbleed bug, as its name suggests, is a bug and not a virus. It involves OpenSSL and has been fixed. Read all about it here: http://heartbleed.com/
Quote:
OpenSSL Security Advisory [07 Apr 2014]
========================================

TLS heartbeat read overrun (CVE-2014-0160)
==========================================

A missing bounds check in the handling of the TLS heartbeat extension can be
used to reveal up to 64k of memory to a connected client or server.

Only 1.0.1 and 1.0.2-beta releases of OpenSSL are affected including
1.0.1f and 1.0.2-beta1.

Thanks for Neel Mehta of Google Security for discovering this bug and to
Adam Langley <agl@chromium.org> and Bodo Moeller <bmoeller@acm.org> for
preparing the fix.

Affected users should upgrade to OpenSSL 1.0.1g. Users unable to immediately
upgrade can alternatively recompile OpenSSL with -DOPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEATS.

1.0.2 will be fixed in 1.0.2-beta2.
Notice the version in Debian Testing
Quote:
~$ aptitude show openssl
Package: openssl
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes
Version: 1.0.1g-2
LZM directive of the day "Keep on truckin' and updatin'"
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Old 04-20-2014, 02:45 PM   #28
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A couple of more things:
1. Libre Office prefers to call this release "Fresh" rather than "unstable".
2. The Heartbleed bug, as its name suggests, is a bug and not a virus. It involves OpenSSL and has been fixed. Read all about it here: http://heartbleed.com/

Notice the version in Debian Testing

LZM directive of the day "Keep on truckin' and updatin'"
jdk
Okey dokey, oh wise Buddha-like teacher. Love my fresh LO. Not worried about Heartache insect. Truckin' and upadatin'. Life is good and I am LZM (the unflappable one) sending cosmic thanks your way.
 
  


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