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02-16-2004, 08:56 PM
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Registered: Sep 2003
Distribution: Slackware 9.1 with fluxbox
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6 fps in ut2004 demo
Hi, just wondering what kind of fps you guys are getting in ut2004, because I am getting abysmal fps in it (6!), and am not sure if this is just me (cuz i have an old box) or linux!
I have played q3 on it, and i get 1000+ in glxgears, so it probably is my comp, but i would like ot compare,... anyway
6fps
Intel 933
384 megs ram
geforce 2 gts w 64megs
(type "stat fps" in the ut console)
EDIT: also, does anyone know a good way to uninstall it?
THansk
Last edited by Tyir; 02-16-2004 at 09:10 PM.
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02-16-2004, 09:35 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: WI
Distribution: Mandrake 9.2
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I get 40-50fps kernal 2.4.something... latest Nvidia drivers on GeForce4ti 4200 (BGA Ram @3.3ns) AMD 2400+ @ 2.00Ghz
-Just for a comparison
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02-18-2004, 01:37 PM
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Connecticut
Distribution: Fedora Core 2
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what's the console command to figure out your FPS??
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02-18-2004, 01:56 PM
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Cheyenne Wyoming
Distribution: Debian/Raspbian/Mint
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My son's comp specs and results:
Slackware 9.1
AMD Duron 800
GF3ti200 64m Details Low: 15-20 FPS
256m PC-100
SBPci 128
My Specs and Results:
Slackware 9.1
AMD 2000 xp
GF FX 5700 Ultra 128m Details High: 30-40 FPS
1gig PC 2100 DDR
SBLive
I think the uninstall script is in a hidden directory called: .loki (At least that is where they are located for Americas Army and ET)
Might want to try different netspeeds while playing, even while offline.
open console and type: netspeed xxxxx
xxxx = number
I use 3500 for both AAO and UT4k and it seems to smoothen out the jerky FPS.
EDIT: Using latest drivers from Nvidia.
Last edited by hanzerik; 02-18-2004 at 02:04 PM.
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02-18-2004, 02:56 PM
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Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 15
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uninstall: try /usr/local/games/ut2004demo/uninstall - not so tough to find!
Not sure of fps (how do you measure?) but at least 30-40 in 1280*1024, everything turned on, on nicely overclocked Athlon2100 and GF4ti4200.
What 3d drivers do you have, you won't get acceptable ogl without the closed source  nvidia drivers. Maybe you could try the software renderer, in experiance there comes a point when video hardware gets so old the cpu is better off not using it.
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02-22-2004, 03:11 PM
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Canada
Distribution: SuSE 9.1 Professional, Slackware 9.1, Gentoo 2004.1
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i get about 5 fps with my ATI radeon 9800 pro! W00t W00t. And that is at mediocore graphics settings! YAY!!! and in windows i get about 80 fps
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02-23-2004, 04:30 AM
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Registered: Feb 2004
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Sounds like you're using generic vesa drivers instead of ones for your card. Try uninstalling your windows video card drivers and see how fast it runs.
Atm, if you want to play games on linux nvidia's the olnly real choice. I'm sure you can get good results for many things from an ATI card, but ATI doesn't seem to really care about linux.
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02-23-2004, 06:33 AM
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Canada
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nope. im using the correct drivers and i got 4500+ fps in glxgears.
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02-23-2004, 06:59 AM
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Wales MA.
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Running at 1280x1024
8500 fps in glxgears
average 120 fps in UT2004
AMD XP3000+ Nvidia 5900 Ultra
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02-23-2004, 02:00 PM
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Maine, USA
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I think the biggest issue here is your hardware, particularly the geforce2. Have you played ut2003 without trouble? If so, then I'm probably wrong about the hardware, but I'd be surprised if you got decent fps out of a 64mb geforce2 unless you had a faster cpu to make up the difference
With ut2003 i've used:
CPU/RAM/GPU
550mhz/512mb/64mb TNT2 - horrible performance
550mhz/512mb/64mb geforce2 - horrible
500mhz/768mb/128mb geforce4 - good performance
1.8ghz/256/128mb geforce4 - very good
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02-23-2004, 03:55 PM
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UT2004 is twice as demanding on the hardware as UT2003 was in my opinion.
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02-23-2004, 05:57 PM
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Canada
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but should i blame ATI's crap drivers for my crap FPS?
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02-24-2004, 07:18 AM
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Registered: Feb 2004
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Probably, yes.
Drivers asside, I quite like linux as a gaming platform. The game feels more like it's able to share the computer with the other stuff.
For example, in Q3A I get about the same fps in windows as linux, but in windows not closing bottrrent browser, my media mpalyer, having a print job going etc very badly impacts on performance, in linux none of this stuff is a problem.
The other thing is the way it handles the screen. Most DEs treat the root window not so differently from any other, so games seen more part of the OS. If MS Messenger pops up "some dude signed in" while I'm gaming the screen gacks up, but with the linux equivalent (Gaim Guifications) the box sits perfectly in front of the game, with the game running no less smoothly.
It seems linux has the core technology to be a fine gaming platform - fast, stable kernel, game friendly DEs, well understood by programmers, but is lacking peripheral things, mostly support from third parties. Windows is the opposite, it has all the support in the world but the core technology is flawed.
In the short term windows gamers have it better, but solid foundations allow faster growth than shaky ones. I don't think linux gaming will overtake windows and time soon, but only a few more things need fall into place and it'll be offering a much nicer gaming experiance.
I already only use linux for gaming. I refuse to have MS anything on my computer.
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11-24-2004, 07:34 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: May 2004
Location: Idaho, USA
Distribution: Mandrake Linux 8, 8.1, 9, 9.1, 10, SuSE 9.2 Pro, RHEL 3.0, Fedora Core 2, 3
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Well, I almost have all of you beat, but just to let you know, I am not bragging, there is somethings that run real great with linux and some things that do not. It depends on what kernel and xfree86 or x.org version you are running.
My System Specs:
Processor: 2100+ Athlon XP
Memory: 512MB DDR PC2100
Video: PNY Technology Nvidia 128MB GeForce FX5200
Sound: SB LIVE! 5.1 Surround
OS: SuSE 9.2 Professional
Kernel: 2.6.9
X.ORG: 4.3
UT2004 Full Version
Resolution: 1280x1024
Detail: Max
FPS: ~300
The FPS on this machine is outrageous. More than what I have seen even with the PCIE Nvidia GeForce FX 1300 or greater. I checked the FPS on that same machine running Windows XP and it get 150 FPS.... It is the strangest Thing.. Also, it is running the IA32 version of the Nvidia Driver. X.ORG really likes that card, I guess..
Remeber that the FPS is an average that I am displaying you.. It is quite rediculous... But hey, I love linux... for it... 
Now on my laptop that has an ATI 320m U1 IGP (64MB Radeon 7500 IGP) the game shows ~50 FPS.. Of course the 320m U1 card is a hard card to configure direct rendering for and took me about 4 hours to setup. And the card itself is slow. This machine is Running Fedora Core 2.
On my Dimension 2300 Desktop, with the 32MB Intel Extreme 3D Integrated Graphics Controller, the game in a window, with everything dropped to the lowest, it runs ~25 FPS.. I just thought I should share it with you.. This one is also running SuSE 9.2 Professional..
Last edited by Choncey; 11-24-2004 at 07:40 AM.
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