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moistTowelette 09-30-2003 12:45 AM

2 problems I'm having with Knoppix 3.2...
Okay, first of all, I'm running Knoppix 3.2 on a dual-boot system with Windows 2000 Professional. I use the Wndows boot loader on startup, but when I select "Linux" it loads LILO, which also gives me the same selection. I wanna get rid of this selection... but that's not the problem. I know how to get rid of it by editing /etc/lilo.conf, but I've DONE that, and nothing works. In fact, nothing I edit in lilo.conf seems to make any difference at all. And yes, in case you're wondering, I do run "lilo" once I've edited the file. Whats wrong?

The second problem I have involves Flash. Every single browser that I've tried (Konqueror, Mozilla and Nutscrape) crashes when I try to load a Flash page. I've read that if something else is using your soundcard at the time, then that can cause the problem, but my soundcard isn't even CONFIGURED. Could that be the problem? Or whats the go?

And uhh.... if anyone knows why Gaim deletes a whole word when you hit backspace instead of just one character, that would be appreciated too :D


Cerbere 09-30-2003 01:20 AM

I have some ideas about your first problem, but you need to give a lot more info. I have no idea what you mean by "nothing I edit in lilo.conf seems to make any difference at all". What have you tried? Never mind. I'm guessing that you installed LILO to your root partition, at least originally, since your windows loader is on the MBR. Run 'fdisk -l' to check that the partition you have Linux on is the same one that's listed in lilo.conf as 'boot=/dev/hdXX'. If they're different then nothing you edit in lilo.conf will make any difference at all ;-)

I prefer to install LILO to the MBR (boot=/dev/hda in lilo.conf), then not worry about the windows boot loader. But if you want to run the win2k boot loader, then you need to get rid of the 'prompt' and 'timeout=XXX' lines in lilo.conf, as well as removing any reference to the win2k partition(s). That way, after you make your selection in win2k boot loader, your LILO will start Linux without asking for your selection again. Maybe these are some of the things you've tried, but I wouldn't know that, would I? Maybe you could post your lilo.conf and the output of 'fdisk -l'.

As for Flash, I'm using Mozilla 1.4 with the plugin ( available from with no problems. Can't tell you a thing about Konqueror, I avoid KDE like the plague.

--- Cerbere

moistTowelette 09-30-2003 02:07 AM

yeah... sorry about the lack of info. Here's the important parts of my lilo.conf (some parts cut out to keep the thread length down).

# Generated by liloconfig

# Specifies the boot device


# Install the specified file as the new boot sector.
# If INSTALL is omitted, /boot/boot.b is used as the default.


# Specifies the location of the map file. If MAP is
# omitted, a file /boot/map is used.


# Specifies the VGA text mode that should be selected when
# booting. The following values are recognized (case is ignored):
# NORMAL select normal 80x25 text mode.
# EXTENDED select 80x50 text mode. The word EXTENDED can be
# abbreviated to EXT.
# ASK stop and ask for user input (at boot time).
# <number> use the corresponding text mode. A list of available modes
# can be obtained by booting with vga=ask and pressing [Enter].


# If you have another OS on this machine (say DOS),
# you can boot if by uncommenting the following lines
# (Of course, change /dev/hda2 to wherever your DOS partition is.)
# other=/dev/hda2
# label=dos

so that's that. When i boot up, it DOES come up with a menu, and it DOES have my windows partition listed in it.
Heres the output of my fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 10.2 GB, 10262568960 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1247 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 261 2096451 6 FAT16
/dev/hda2 1187 1247 489982+ 5 Extended
/dev/hda3 262 1186 7430062+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda5 1187 1247 489951 82 Linux swap

I know that's a weird way to partition it, but i was doing it in a hurry and kinda messed up :\. but it should still work, right? i dunno whats wrong.

Cerbere 09-30-2003 04:09 PM

Hmmm, I'm not sure about this, but your problem may have something to do with the extended partition coming before your linux partition. I'd try using a rescue disk (Tom's root boot is excellent) and use fdisk to delete partitions 2 & 5, then re-create a primary partition 2 as your swap. Then run 'mkswap /dev/hda2'. Then you'll have to edit your /etc/fstab to show the swap as hda2. I really don't know if this could be the cause of your problem, but it's worth a try. Even if it doesn't fix your LILO woes, at least it'll straighten out your partition table.

I also noticed the line '# Generated by liloconfig'. I'm not too familiar with Knoppix, but if it has this program you could try running it again to see if it makes a better lilo.conf. Be sure to make a copy of your current one first, though.

--- Cerbere

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