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Old 07-06-2011, 02:44 AM   #1
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to run DNS set up on server or NOT to that is the Question i have


i understand that I need a DDClient and DDClient.conf running on my linux box while behind a router

but should i also set up a onboard DNS entries for sub domains??


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Old 07-06-2011, 07:58 AM   #2
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i understand that I need a DDClient and DDClient.conf running on my linux box while behind a router
The ddclient that I am familiar with is for services like dyndns that is designed to update your DNS pointer when your IP address changes.

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but should i also set up a onboard DNS entries for sub domains??
This may be a little tricky if you are using a dynamic IP service, but off hand I think it could work. The parent domain, <you>.<dynamic-domain>.<root-domain> would point to your server. Your server would then be responsible for handling the resolution of any sub domains. You would need to configure the proper zone files. What might be tricky is getting the SOA correct in that your DNS would need to be authoritative for the sub domain, but should NOT claim to be authoritative for the parent domain.
 
Old 07-08-2011, 01:21 AM   #3
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to use rehat DNS or not

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The ddclient that I am familiar with is for services like dyndns that is designed to update your DNS pointer when your IP address changes.


This may be a little tricky if you are using a dynamic IP service, but off hand I think it could work. The parent domain, <you>.<dynamic-domain>.<root-domain> would point to your server. Your server would then be responsible for handling the resolution of any sub domains. You would need to configure the proper zone files. What might be tricky is getting the SOA correct in that your DNS would need to be authoritative for the sub domain, but should NOT claim to be authoritative for the parent domain.


here is what i've done in simple terms 1st i've made seprate master forward zones gusc.com
then created another zone wgd.gusc.oom irc.gusc.com www.gusc.com gusc.gusc.com

where they ask for nameserver i added the ns1 through ns4.afraid.org where i use freedns.afraid.org dynamic DNS sevices

the above was my 1st try....


if i understand your pint of root/parent domain, you create gusc.oom and branch off of that by adding a record, such as wgd.gusc.com irc.gusc.com www.gusc.com gusc.gusc.com
and devide the 4 name server equally to each branch

BTW gusc.com is short for my fully qualifide domain name that i paid for at directnic.com i use freedns.afraid.org because dierctnic.com does not have a Dynamic DNS option

BTW the system i plan on pointing to is behind netgear RP614 -v4 router and i can not add freedns.afraid.org as my DDclient provider, on the router it is pre programmed with dynDNS provider


please check which self DNS settings shoul i use??

my thanks
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:47 AM   #4
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I think that the afraid.org is adding a layer to the confusion factor here. In response to your reply, I did a little bit of looking on their website. Are you using their premium service or their free service? (doh, you said your using the freedns) Assuming you are using their free service, it looks like there is a little bit of a catch and that is that their DNS also hosts the sub domains rather than yours. The reason for this is that it looks like you are agreeing to let others tag on to your FQDN parent domain name and create sub domains off of it. For example, you may have zone wgd.gusc.oom irc.gusc.com www.gusc.com gusc.gusc.com but someone else could come along and create strangesextoys.gusc.com. If you control the DNS for the domain, this can't happen as you will be responsible for creating and maintaining those zone entries. In this case, from what I read, to register your subdomains, you would do this under the domain tab on the afraid.org control panel.

If this is not what you want, maybe you should look at the premium services, which may offer dynamic DNS for $5 per month (from what I saw) or look at a different provider like DynDNS which offers this type of service, though it wouldn't be free either.
 
Old 07-08-2011, 06:59 AM   #5
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I think that the afraid.org is adding a layer to the confusion factor here. In response to your reply, I did a little bit of looking on their website. Are you using their premium service or their free service? (doh, you said your using the freedns) Assuming you are using their free service, it looks like there is a little bit of a catch and that is that their DNS also hosts the sub domains rather than yours. The reason for this is that it looks like you are agreeing to let others tag on to your FQDN parent domain name and create sub domains off of it. For example, you may have zone wgd.gusc.oom irc.gusc.com www.gusc.com gusc.gusc.com but someone else could come along and create strangesextoys.gusc.com. If you control the DNS for the domain, this can't happen as you will be responsible for creating and maintaining those zone entries. In this case, from what I read, to register your subdomains, you would do this under the domain tab on the afraid.org control panel.

If this is not what you want, maybe you should look at the premium services, which may offer dynamic DNS for $5 per month (from what I saw) or look at a different provider like DynDNS which offers this type of service, though it wouldn't be free either.
well to answer IF others can crate off my subs, i chose "private " not public. I know that I need to add directnic.com's NS server to my account dyn only allows i think 2 hosts, last time i did setup i may have done it ass backwards

by onnly adding directnic.com ns to afraid.org set up, i read some where to put the afraid.org ns server on directnic.com system....

the only other isssue i had was i could not use DDclient to update there was a invalid value in the line Protocol freedns when i maild josh there was no real salution except posabally ermoving a , in the line of the DDClient.conf

BTW i'm using the free section of freedns for now until i get it to work

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Old 07-08-2011, 08:00 AM   #6
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well to answer IF others can crate off my subs, i chose "private " not public.
You might want to double check on their FAQ sheet for this. From what I saw this morning, and this part caught my attention, the only difference between private and public is that you can moderate what sub domains get used in order to prevent offensive ones, not eliminate or prevent them.

Given what you are after, if you can find a dynamic DNS provider that will point your parent domain at your IP address, you could run your own DNS. It just occurred to me, though, that unless you have multiple public IP addresses (and if you do, I would think that they would be static) that the sub domains will simply be CNAMES or aliases of the parent domain. In which case, your DNS provider will likely provide this service for upto X number of CNAMES for no charge.
 
Old 07-08-2011, 09:33 PM   #7
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You might want to double check on their FAQ sheet for this. From what I saw this morning, and this part caught my attention, the only difference between private and public is that you can moderate what sub domains get used in order to prevent offensive ones, not eliminate or prevent them.

Given what you are after, if you can find a dynamic DNS provider that will point your parent domain at your IP address, you could run your own DNS. It just occurred to me, though, that unless you have multiple public IP addresses (and if you do, I would think that they would be static) that the sub domains will simply be CNAMES or aliases of the parent domain. In which case, your DNS provider will likely provide this service for upto X number of CNAMES for no charge.
i have 1 dynamic IP then the netgear RP614 v4 then the 2 PC's 1v is XPhome the other is RH9 shrike yes i know it's out dated


but IF i do use the linux DNS should I make seprate entries for each???


or should i branch off the main entry, into tree like set up

Wolfsar
 
  


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