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Old 03-30-2021, 07:32 AM   #91
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A good opportunity to officially postpone the release I guess.
In the live Q&A session they mentioned end of April as a new date.

Update. Now in their Community Update as well:
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Unfortunately weíve had to revise our previous update for a release candidate from March 31 to April 30, due to complications in the build efforts.
In other news, AlmaLinux is launching today was launched on time.

Torrent links for AlmaLinux 8.3 final:
Update 2021-04-12. Also, I was wrong about this:
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Today, koji.rockylinux.org started to build packages in earnest.
They not started it then. That was just a single attempt to build everything in Koji.

Today was their second attempt. They tried to build 1755 regular packages (no modules). 18 of them failed. Here is the list of failed packages:
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xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.917-39.20200205.el8
uglify-js-2.8.2-4.el8 (failed a test)
sed-4.5-2.el8 (failed a test)
scrub-2.5.2-14.el8 (failed on ARM, succeeded on x86_64)
python-requests-2.20.0-2.1.el8
python-psycopg2-2.7.5-7.el8
python-packaging-16.8-9.el8
python-iso8601-0.1.11-9.el8
python-cryptography-2.3-3.el8
postgresql-odbc-10.03.0000-2.el8 (failed a test)
perl-AnyEvent-7.14-6.el8 (failed a test)
graphviz-2.40.1-40.el8
libnice-0.1.14-7.20180504git34d6044.el8
gnome-online-miners-3.26.0-3.el8 (failed on ARM, succeeded on x86_64)
bolt-0.9-1.el8 (failed a test)
marisa-0.2.4-36.el8
kyotocabinet-1.2.76-17.el8
flute-1.3.0-18.OOo31.el8

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Old 05-04-2021, 11:02 AM   #92
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So, re-checking that link, Scientific Linux is now included in that search too, despite still being dormant with no new releases made or planned.

AlmaLinux only appears when relaxing the LTS requirement, despite CloudLinux's commitment to supporting it until 2029 being beyond Distowatch's LTS definition of 5+ years.

Rocky Linux have finally announced their first release candidate and now has a Distrowatch page, but doesn't currently appear in the search unless both "package management" and "release model" are set to All.

 
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Old 05-17-2021, 08:20 AM   #93
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Is openSUSE Leap Ready to Be the New CentOS? @DataCenterKnowledge
Closing the Leap Gap @SUSE

From Wikipedia:
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For the upcoming openSUSE Leap 15.3 release, the repository for openSUSE Leap and SUSE Linux Enterprise (SLE) will be merged and containing the same source code and binary packages. SLE 15 will be supported until 31 July 2028
 
Old 05-17-2021, 10:24 PM   #94
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I was a little surprised to see the OP discounted Slackware on EOL concerns.

PV + co support Slackware releases for ten years, which seems like plenty, but I suppose the worry is that since this isn't a formally declared policy, they might change it sometime in the future?

That having been said, though, if one wants as close to a RHEL experience as possible, Alma/Rocks/Springfield are better alternatives. Slackware is Slackware, and not much like RHEL.

Most CentOS shops into which I have visibility are sticking with CentOS 7 for as long as they can while the prospective successor distributions shake out their kinks. It seems like the smart way to go.
 
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Old 05-18-2021, 12:43 PM   #95
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The "smart way" to go is Debian
 
Old 05-18-2021, 01:44 PM   #96
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The "smart way" to go is Debian
NOT if your production is on RHEL. IF your production is on RHEL you want development/testing/QA/UAT environments either on RHEL or something that is binary identical. That WAS the value in CentOS, now the value on the other Binary Identical (from the same sources) distributions.


Debian is the solid choice only if you will be making all five environments on Debian.
 
Old 05-27-2021, 12:48 AM   #97
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AlmaLinux 8.4 is out.
 
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Old 07-05-2021, 07:52 PM   #98
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Just a dumb Q, Havenít run Linux in a while but may get back into the lab soon. Is Centos still popular? When I was doing X-ray crystallography programs they mostly used Linux because window was too unstable. Generally centos5 was deemed the best and the upgrades didnít measure up. With the introduction of all solid state machines do scientists like my previous self still prefer Linux just to be able to write their own scripts? Or is Linux dying for most software thatís been around forever like CCP4?
 
Old 07-05-2021, 09:16 PM   #99
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Just a dumb Q, Havenít run Linux in a while but may get back into the lab soon. Is Centos still popular?
CentOS popularity took a massive nose dive December last year
https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/futu...centos-stream/
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When I was doing X-ray crystallography programs they mostly used Linux because window was too unstable. Generally centos5 was deemed the best and the upgrades didnít measure up.
It is not at all uncommon for people to get stuck with what they know and consider new things to be not as good. Lots of people didn't want to migrate from CentOS5 to 6, but the uproar from 6 to 7 IMO was greater.
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With the introduction of all solid state machines do scientists like my previous self still prefer Linux just to be able to write their own scripts? Or is Linux dying for most software thatís been around forever like CCP4?
Not sure what "solid state machines" or "CCP4" are but in my experience proportionally more people are using OSX (or whatever that OS that the Apple produces is called) than there were 5-10 years ago. In my field I'd estimate that 95% of the real work is done on Linux.

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Old 07-06-2021, 12:35 AM   #100
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RockyLinux 8.4 GA release is out https://rockylinux.org/news/rocky-linux-8-4-ga-release/
 
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Old 07-23-2021, 05:34 AM   #101
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FYI, the draft of CentOS 8 EOL announcement.
 
Old 07-29-2021, 10:11 AM   #102
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Is Centos still popular?
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CentOS popularity took a massive nose dive December last year
Well, according to statistics from the EPEL project, CentOS is still surprisingly popular (here are the latest data).

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Old 07-29-2021, 12:33 PM   #103
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I don't see that as surprising - nobody who upgraded to CentOS 8 would rush to migrate away, and nobody on CentOS 7 has to worry yet.

It might be interesting at the end of the year, if they can report where CentOS 8 users go, but it'll probably take another three years before we find out how many people switch to Alma/Oracle/Rocky/etc by the time CentOS 7 support ends.

Also, I'm wondering what percentage of RHEL/CentOS/etc users use EPEL - it still needs to be manually enabled, right?

 
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Old 07-30-2021, 02:13 AM   #104
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I don't see that as surprising - nobody who upgraded to CentOS 8 would rush to migrate away, and nobody on CentOS 7 has to worry yet.
The data in the first figure only reflect CentOS 8.3+: the countme feature it uses was enabled in November 2020.

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Also, I'm wondering what percentage of RHEL/CentOS/etc users use EPEL - it still needs to be manually enabled, right?
Sure. That said, 1) enabling EPEL is the first thing I usually do on any fresh CentOS install (no matter if server or workstation), and 2) I was surprised not by the absolute numbers, but by the relative strength of CentOS 8 compared to other RHEL clones.
 
Old 08-17-2021, 11:43 AM   #105
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Now that Debian 11 has been released, I am in the process of migrating my CentOS 8 servers. 5 year support is better than that 4 months left for CentOS 8
 
  


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