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Old 03-27-2012, 11:19 AM   #1
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RHCSS valuable??


Dear friends,
Right now i am working as linux administrator 2 years exp in Linux with RHCE certified. I am in the plan of studying RHCSS. can any one guide me how it will help for my career and job salary. Is any company looking for RHCSS certified professionals .

Kindly revert. Thanks in advance
 
Old 03-27-2012, 12:01 PM   #2
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Dear friends,
Right now i am working as linux administrator 2 years exp in Linux with RHCE certified. I am in the plan of studying RHCSS. can any one guide me how it will help for my career and job salary. Is any company looking for RHCSS certified professionals .

Kindly revert. Thanks in advance
No one can tell you if there are any job opportunities for you, since you don't tell us where you live. The weight of a certification on your ability to get a job will vary by employer, and by location. For me, I don't give certifications much consideration at all.
 
Old 03-27-2012, 10:52 PM   #3
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Thanks for replying. I stay in chennai, India. I planned of entering in to linux security administration in future, so i thought RHCSS would be useful. Is there any company looking for RHCSS people????
 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:28 AM   #4
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Thanks for replying. I stay in chennai, India. I planned of entering in to linux security administration in future, so i thought RHCSS would be useful. Is there any company looking for RHCSS people????
No idea...but why don't YOU go look around in Chennai, and see??? You've obviously got access to the internet, the local papers, and job-services there, and they would know if anyone near you is hiring.

Again, certificates are the last thing I look at, and I don't take them seriously at all. Want to specialize in security? Then LEARN SECURITY...a certification doesn't give you anything special
 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:33 AM   #5
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The weight of a certification on your ability to get a job will vary by employer, and by location. For me, I don't give certifications much consideration at all.
For me, I do give certification some consideration as it shows a willingness to learn and if someone has paid for their own certification it shows some commitment to the learning process. If it happens to be a relevant certification (such as any Linux certification, or Cisco certification) then they'd certainly rise up my potential pile above anyone with the same level of work experience. Wouldn't put them above anyone with MORE experience though.
 
Old 03-28-2012, 10:47 AM   #6
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For me, I do give certification some consideration as it shows a willingness to learn and if someone has paid for their own certification it shows some commitment to the learning process. If it happens to be a relevant certification (such as any Linux certification, or Cisco certification) then they'd certainly rise up my potential pile above anyone with the same level of work experience. Wouldn't put them above anyone with MORE experience though.
True, to a point...but how do you know who paid for their certification(s)? I have been bitten too many times by this particular issue...MANY folks go get a certification, for exactly the reason you said...so they "rise up the pile". They have no INTEREST in learning, but did the bare minimum needed to get a 'certification'. I know a guy whose resume looks VERY impressive...lots of Microsoft certificates, Novell and Linux too. And all he did was take the practice exams online over (and over, and over and over....), until he could squeak by. I doubt he could pour pee out of a boot, if the instructions were printed on the heel.

I ask a good set of interview questions, and try to get a feel for how a candidate THINKS and solves problems, and ask about things they've DONE. Then, I sit them in a lab with no internet connection, and give them some things they should know how to do, and let them have at it. In my experience, the pass/fail rate is about the same with certifications as without. And this is just MY take on them...if you've had good luck, that's awesome.
 
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I ask a good set of interview questions, and try to get a feel for how a candidate THINKS and solves problems, and ask about things they've DONE. Then, I sit them in a lab with no internet connection, and give them some things they should know how to do, and let them have at it. In my experience, the pass/fail rate is about the same with certifications as without. And this is just MY take on them...if you've had good luck, that's awesome.
Oh, all THAT happens too, it's just that at the initial stage if I've a mountain of resumes to go through and decide who actually gets to the interview stage then anything "extra" helps.
 
Old 03-28-2012, 02:22 PM   #8
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Apart from the controversy surrounding those paper things, I don't think RHCSS will make you "rise up the pile". RHCSS is a SELinux-heavy kind of certification; it's just too spesific, too esoteric. Say your employer wants to deploy some third party apps on their RHEL based systems, would they really take the painful effort to build (and maintain) SELinux custom modules to support them? I doubt that.

If you are seeking for a career and better salary, I think RHCA will do better than RHCSS.
 
Old 03-29-2012, 06:48 AM   #9
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For me, I do give certification some consideration as it shows a willingness to learn
IMO, willingness to get certificates show the willingness to get a job.
Willingness to get a job != Willingness to learn.

What has certification to be with learning? Certification is
a proof that you have passed an exam. Whom do you have to show
that proof to? The employers?

For "learning" you need a computer and a book, not certificates,
IMO.

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and if someone has paid for their own certification it shows some commitment to the learning process.
I would have agreed if you would have used the word "studies"
instead of the word "certification".

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I stay in chennai, India. I planned of entering in to linux security administration in future, so i thought RHCSS would be useful. Is there any company looking for RHCSS people????
http://jobsearch.monsterindia.com/search.html

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Old 03-29-2012, 12:41 PM   #10
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hi rajkumar,

Getting of rhcss certification boots ur confident level .i will agree with tbone exam pass are fails does int matters knowledge speaks .No company verify ur certification they will verify ur stuff which u have. u can find best redhat training partners in chennai hu takes rhcss training
 
Old 03-29-2012, 01:33 PM   #11
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hi rajkumar,

Getting of rhcss certification boots ur confident level .i will agree with tbone exam pass are fails does int matters knowledge speaks .No company verify ur certification they will verify ur stuff which u have. u can find best redhat training partners in chennai hu takes rhcss training
You need to spell out your words. No one will look twice at you if you write/spell like that.
 
Old 03-31-2012, 11:06 AM   #12
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Thanks guys for your valuable reply. I will go for start studying RHCSS soon.
 
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IMPORTANT - Get the Michael Jang's latest edition book for RHCSS.
 
  


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