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tomdkat 02-18-2007 04:28 PM

Question about QmailToaster vs QmailRocks
 
Hi! I've been the admin of a Qmail/Vpopmail mail server for a few years now and I'm looking to move the mail server to a new box. I'm building the box now and am looking to install a more current and feature rich version of Qmail. I've used some part of QmailToaster in the past but couldn't get it working as I wanted. Maybe going with QmailToaster from start to finish might result in greater success.

My question is this: Which Qmail install procedure/method is better, QmailToaster or QmailRocks? I've had no experience with QmailRocks.

Thanks!

Peace...

JimBass 02-19-2007 10:11 AM

I've used qmailrocks in several different installs, and like the name says, it rocks! It is obscenely easy, to the point where somebody with no linux experience can get it going. The pages and built in scripts basically build it for you. You get a fully functional pop3/smtp/imap server that requires authentication to send, with separate webpages that allow you to control individual users within a domain, or make domain wide changes. Also, you get anti-virus and anti-spam built in, with the whole thing auto-updating.

The only additional things you need to do are to check the qmailrocks forums, specifically to see how to enable rbl checking for better anti-spam, and also if there is some error in your install. I caught an error in the debian install, where the script called for one directory, but the file it was looking for was in another.

In all it is super easy, well documented, and works like a charm. Obviously I recommend it very highly.

Peace,
JimBass

roreilly 02-19-2007 10:19 AM

I have used the qmailrocks install for slackware on several servers for a few years now.

I find it easy and reliable.

I have updated spamassassin, clamav and switched to egroupware for the webmail
and all of my users are quite happy with it.

Pay special attention to upgrading and customizing spamassassin to meet your needs.
It will make your life much better.

icechong 03-15-2007 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roreilly
I have used the qmailrocks install for slackware on several servers for a few years now.

I find it easy and reliable.

I have updated spamassassin, clamav and switched to egroupware for the webmail
and all of my users are quite happy with it.

Pay special attention to upgrading and customizing spamassassin to meet your needs.
It will make your life much better.


i have a mail server with qmailrocks-way also, but i failed to upgrade the spamassassin into version 3.1X.

it will be glad if u can share on how you did that?

thanks.

roreilly 03-16-2007 08:18 AM

i have a mail server with qmailrocks-way also, but i failed to upgrade the spamassassin into version 3.1X.

it will be glad if u can share on how you did that?


No problem:

For spamassassin, I actually just update it via cspan:

perl -MCPAN -e shell

install Mail::SpamAssassin

Then restart spamassassin.

As for Clamav, up to 0.90:

stop qmail with 'qmailctl stop'

then I just downloaded the latest version and compiled it as per the qmr instructions.

As of 0.9.0, it seems a few things have changed. Here is what I had to do:

Follow qmr instructions.

in /var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl, find the qmail-scanner options line that contains "--mbox" and remove that line.

Then restart qmail with 'qmailctl start'

I've seen a lot of posts about people having problems with the 0.9 releases of clamav on qmr,
so I would strongly recommend that you test it on a backup system first. If it fails,
roll back to an older version, just make clean in the clamav src directory, then roll back to an 0.8x release following the qmr instructions.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

R.

Zilvermeeuw 03-16-2007 03:13 PM

Are there no people who uses qmailtoaster?

icechong 03-18-2007 10:30 AM

thanks a lot roreilly.

do we need to upgrade the spamassassin-tools as well?

if i remember correctly, there is a spamassassin-tools on QMR installation.

thanks.

roreilly 03-18-2007 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icechong

do we need to upgrade the spamassassin-tools as well?

if i remember correctly, there is a spamassassin-tools on QMR installation.

thanks.

If I'm not mistaken, you may be thinking of the perl modules required.

They should be automatically updated if your CPAN settings are configured to follow requirements when building packages.

If not, you can go through the list of requirements on qmr. If they are up to date, you will be informed, otherwise they should build.

Also, the spamassassin gave me a list of optional packages that were not installed. I added most of those also as they offer additional functionality that may be of use.

icechong 03-18-2007 11:14 PM

thanks man, i will test it out.

roreilly 03-20-2007 09:31 AM

No prob.

Keep us posted on the results, and I will help as much
as I can if there are any issues.

maxut 02-23-2008 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zilvermeeuw (Post 2672906)
Are there no people who uses qmailtoaster?

Me ! :)
Actually i have both qmr and qmt.. nowadays i prefer qmt (qmailtoaster). it is so easy to intall, can install itself by scritps. plus it has more feature than qmr (for example chkuser). this helps to fight with spams. easy to upgrade because of rpm based install.

last words: both of them are so beautiful but i prefer qmt.

Zilvermeeuw 02-24-2008 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxut (Post 3066985)
Me ! :)
Actually i have both qmr and qmt.. nowadays i prefer qmt (qmailtoaster). it is so easy to intall, can install itself by scritps. plus it has more feature than qmr (for example chkuser). this helps to fight with spams. easy to upgrade because of rpm based install.

last words: both of them are so beautiful but i prefer qmt.

Thanks Maxut!

Now the server is running fedora 7 with QmailRocks. But the next time I try Qmailtoaster.


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