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Old 05-11-2007, 10:55 AM   #1
jim.thornton
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Need help deciding on which distro - Currently have SUSE 10.2


First... I'm a noob to Linux. I have dabbled with Ubuntu a few years ago but not very much.

I've installed openSUSE 10.2. This application is a Server.

Here is what I want to do:

- File & Print Server to my LAN
- Webserver to serve a proprietary PHP & MySQL client database - I want this ONLY accessible from the LAN -AND- a VPN connection through the internet.
- I would also like to run the Asterisk program (for a phone system)

Questions:

1. Is openSUSE 10.2 the right choice for this?
2. When I installed openSUSE, it seemed to have installed the desktop version (including GIMP and openOffice) - Is there a way of installing the server package (the same that the Suse Enterprise would be)
 
Old 05-11-2007, 12:20 PM   #2
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I always suggest CentOS for roles like the one youre describing. It's stable, secure, free, and you get to take advantage of the extensive redhat enterprise linux documentation that's out there. The installer is fairly straight forward, you'll have the option to install the file sharing (ie: samba), web server, and mysql packages. You can download the iso's from centos.org.
 
Old 05-11-2007, 09:48 PM   #3
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I always suggest CentOS for roles like the one youre describing. It's stable, secure, free, and you get to take advantage of the extensive redhat enterprise linux documentation that's out there. The installer is fairly straight forward, you'll have the option to install the file sharing (ie: samba), web server, and mysql packages. You can download the iso's from centos.org.
Thanks... Is that pretty much the concensus of everyone?
 
Old 05-11-2007, 10:26 PM   #4
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I also like CentOS. I use it as a file server in a RAID5 system and it's been working great for 6-months now. I have an uptime of about 90-days and only reboot when I have to with the updates and patches.

I also have an Ubuntu 6.06 server for filesharing and Apache that's also been steady as a rock. No complaints here from either one.
 
Old 05-11-2007, 11:29 PM   #5
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Just to add my opinion I must say that Slackware makes a perfect server as well.
http://www.slackware.com/getslack/
 
Old 05-12-2007, 07:58 AM   #6
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Isn't slackware shell-only?? I would like something graphical to help "shorten" the learning curve.
 
Old 05-12-2007, 08:01 AM   #7
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Two questions:

1. Does CentOS work well as a client solution or should I use something like Ubuntu for them?

2. What software options/packages should I include in the setup for what I want to do?

3. Are there any good Open Source solutions for VPN?
 
Old 05-12-2007, 01:26 PM   #8
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Linux is all about the shell. you are going to be involoved in using the shell sometime or the other.
if you want to run a GUI server, try Ubuntu server. i don't support Ubuntu server by any means but it might help in your situation.
just a quick note. you're coming on this through "WindowsServer2003/WindowsXP" mentality. with Linux it's a little differnet.
NFS is the solution for native linux file sharing and SAMBA for mixed windows/linux environment.
I've been running IPCOP linux firewall .... OpenVPN add-on can be installed on it and it works great with both Windows XP and any version of linux

Windows style crappy servers are not available on linux. Linux is natively secure and strong but requires more hard work... what's easy is not always the best!

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Old 05-12-2007, 03:14 PM   #9
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Windows style crappy servers are not available on linux. Linux is natively secure and strong but requires more hard work... what's easy is not always the best!
The guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Ignore him. Any system or distro you use will be secure to the extent that you know what you are doing and how you are doing it. Whether it is at the command line or through a GUI, it does not matter. Windows Server 2003 has features that are secure just like Linux. I use both Linux and Windows Server 2003 and never had a breach of security. They both get the job done and they both do it well

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Old 05-12-2007, 08:17 PM   #10
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I'm a big open SUSE admin. My Suse box does just about everything you are asking for. The package installer is a little confusing at first - sorry folks, i like using the gui some times it does make quick changes a little easier. Any way, what you need to do now that you have your system installed, start YAST, (system admin program) look in Software > Software Management. Change the filter to "Filter by Pattern" and you should be able to quickly find all the packages you'll need, also you can remove the ones you don't really need.

Oh, I run openSUSE 10.2 as well.
 
Old 05-12-2007, 10:01 PM   #11
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Thanks MS Products....!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Micro420
Windows Server 2003 has features that are secure just like Linux. I use both Linux and Windows Server 2003 and never had a breach of security.
i will thanks Microsoft for couple of things:
thanks for the wonderful time i spent explaining for my clients how Microsoft won't support windows 2000 day time savings change ... thanks for the dummy exchange database that doesn't realize that OS DST has been changed ... then thanks for letting everybody logging as administrators without passwords ... thanks for letting viruses spread and trojans thrive...

thanks for stealing 3d desktops and calamining it for windows vista... and thanks for everything windows programmers have stolen from MAC OS ....
thanks for many things..... including proven security products...

for people how want to be Linux/Unix like system administrators:
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE SHELL ....


Quote:
The guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Ignore him
thank you "windows" administrator for the wonderful comment you made.
 
Old 05-12-2007, 11:45 PM   #12
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First... I would like to state that although I am new, and I am looking for some type of a GUI, it doesn't mean that I am opposed to the shell.

Second... I don't mind the shell at all, but I am trying to shave the learning curve a little. If I can get things going with the GUI and then "better" them later, then that is fine. Security is something that is very important to me, but right now the main focus is getting things up and running, and make things securer (if that is a word) as I go on.

Third... One of the main things slowing me down with the shell is all the acronym like, LVM, CUPS and a bunch of others. I've got no clue what they are. Although I am competant with computers, I've never been a network guru, so I have to learn the network stuff and linux at the same time. This is why I'm trying to shave the learning curve a little.
 
Old 05-13-2007, 12:13 AM   #13
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Jim, CentOS will ask what setup you, server, workstation, whatever, so you can use ity at both ends.

A word of advice if you go the CentOS route (which I use btw) - if you are finding things simply don't work when you expect them to, assume SELinux is the problem. You can temporarily disable it with setenforce 0. I bet you you will forget this and find SELinux is stopping something from working (especially if you use Samba for file sharing)
 
Old 05-13-2007, 12:41 AM   #14
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thanks for the help... I've re-installed the CentOS and so far, I'm liking it a bit better. But honestly, I think it might be the GNOME/KDE difference as with openSUSE, I installed KDE and with CentOS I decided to check out GNOME. But I did think that that installation was MUCH easier with CentOS.

I don't know anything about linux. Can someone please point me in the right direction for the setup that I want.

The first thing that I want to do is setup my LAN. I have a 24 Port switch and a wireless router. I want the wireless router for my laptop. I was thinking that I should run the cable modem directly into the server or switch (I've never configured a switch before so I don't know what to do there either) and then have the wireless router connected to one of the ports on the switch. I would like to setup the server to serve http to the LAN and I ONLY want the outside to be able to access the server IF it is though a secure VPN.

Can someone please let me know where I should start reading? Or just help me via the forums.
 
Old 05-13-2007, 01:56 AM   #15
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Try this for starter Jim

http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/#Linux%20Main
 
  


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