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Old 07-12-2008, 05:52 AM   #1
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Unhappy Mailman security issue, No privacy to the Organizations


Hello Mailman,linux community friends

We are using the Mailman in our office, for our internal purpose only. Which is meant for privacy to the office members.

where as one day i found that mailman archieve it is showing the entire mails to the outside people. If they are downloading all the archieves and seeing them will break our privacy this came to my existance after 2 years of time. I dont know how may are doing this. And we are very much afraid of this.

for example same iam showing the link here of mailman community emails

(whether this is hack or feature or dont know wht to say, but this way it is showing our organizations mails to all the public)

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo - this is the list of the members

By seeing the above link what i understood is All the groups and members are known to others, then how can achieve the privacy using this mailman. This is usefull for open community by seeing the mails interchanging the knowledge only the mailman.

For offices like us can we achieve the privacy. Even the attachments in the mails are also visible to others and sometimes the mails are consisting the Passwords also, So how to configure this mailman for not showing the archieve and only use as the mail server, used only for reading and composing the mails like all other email services (Yahoo,google etc.,).


So kindly provide the solution.

we can get full benifit of mailman.

with regards
A.Jithender Reddy

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Old 07-12-2008, 06:14 AM   #2
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Do you mean that you have created a mailman list? Or that you have installed it to your local server?

Is it the software from here: http://www.list.org/
 
Old 07-12-2008, 10:37 AM   #3
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Do you mean that you have created a mailman list? Or that you have installed it to your local server?

Is it the software from here: http://www.list.org/
And we are using this as our internal mailserver application only.

I dont want to give the original url here because i.e not fixed means if i provide all the mails are visible to others.

i.e as example iam giving the python.org urls (above).

So, kindly provide the solution.

(MailMan - i think this is for electronic mail discussion and e-newsletter lists but we are using this for internal mail server only. So, how to deny access to other public for viewing the mail discussion archieves {observe the above post urls} )
Example:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/

The Mailman-Users Archives

You can get more information about this list.


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Like this entire mails are visible to others. So how i should prevent others to view the lists. Actually the lists are created for our members grouping but not to provide e-newsletter or subscribe feature. I think you understand this.

"Want to achieve the privacy using the mailman. you can say we dont want list e-newsletter feature of mailman. Only the basic requireemtn of ours is composing the mails, reading the mails, i.e for communication between the members. Most of them are confidential "

thanks

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Old 07-12-2008, 01:17 PM   #4
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Haven't used it myself, but you may find this useful: http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Home
 
Old 07-12-2008, 11:16 PM   #5
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If you set archive_private to "private" on the lists "Archiving
Options" page in the admin web interface, the archive will only be
available to list members who log in with their list pasword. The
archive links will be of the form
<http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/mailman-developers/>, and the
'pipermail' links won't work.
more information please

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Old 07-13-2008, 01:44 AM   #6
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If you don't want people external to your organization seeing your lists, then configure your web server such that only hosts on your LAN can have access. If I am understanding you correctly, this is a web server configuration issue, not a mailman issue.

Do you want to allow or deny external people the ability to send mail to the list?
 
Old 07-13-2008, 10:50 AM   #7
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If you don't want people external to your organization seeing your lists, then configure your web server such that only hosts on your LAN can have access. If I am understanding you correctly, this is a web server configuration issue, not a mailman issue.

Do you want to allow or deny external people the ability to send mail to the list?
No, we use internet to access the mailserver of ours, even we also provide some people who are authorized to use their mails with our domain. So this is not the issue with the webserver. Rather you can say the issue now is we dont want the feature of subscriptions in mailman simply.

:-)

So first, second threads post having the url check it once. Now all our mails are showing on the internet this way (suddenly i saw one day by browsing one attachment which came from one of my colleague who is using this mailman of ours and it is pointing to this subscribe list)

I surprise and i escalated this issue to my authorities. Now they are checking on that.

In the mean while i want to get the help of you people in solving that
 
Old 07-13-2008, 12:17 PM   #8
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If you set archive_private to "private" on the lists "Archiving
Options" page in the admin web interface, the archive will only be
available to list members who log in with their list pasword. The
archive links will be of the form
<http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/mailman-developers/>, and the
'pipermail' links won't work.
What about this wasn't clear?
 
Old 07-21-2008, 07:28 AM   #9
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If you set archive_private to "private" on the lists "Archiving
Options" page in the admin web interface, the archive will only be
available to list members who log in with their list pasword. The
archive links will be of the form
<http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/mailman-developers/>, and the
'pipermail' links won't work.

This will help you insolving your problem.

Private archieve means only to the members not all the public who are accessing the mailman pages only the list only. look into this and tell me
 
  


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