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Old 08-04-2013, 10:31 PM   #1
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is there any to backup linux in a DVD


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i want to back up my linux system in a dvd , and install it on other PC, give me a help, thanks
 
Old 08-04-2013, 10:44 PM   #2
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You forgot to mention which of the 500+ distributions of Linux you are using. That information would be a good starting point to get a response. You need to first check the size to make sure it is going to fit on a DVD.
 
Old 08-05-2013, 01:16 AM   #3
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if the two systems are physically located in the same area you might want to look into DD instead of trying to backup and restore from DVD.

take the new HDD put it in the old computer, fire it up and DD the data over. that should do the trick.

or install from fresh the new system with your flavor of Linux and rsync via your LAN the data that is important to you.
 
Old 08-05-2013, 02:51 PM   #4
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Storix (from storix.com) can take a backup of a system and restore/recover to a different box. Recovered to a similar physical machine or do a P2V.
It requires license to run Storix though.
 
Old 08-05-2013, 03:18 PM   #5
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Clonezilla should do it, will take more than one DVD in most cases.
 
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:15 AM   #6
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Do realize that with clonezilla and monodorescue, they take exact copies, which means the target hw must be pretty much the same (device drivers etc).
http://www.mondorescue.org/docs/mond...VERVIEW-SYSREQ.

To be able to put it on 'any' hw, you'll need to do an install (fresh) of the bare OS, then backup/restore appdata separately.
 
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Do realize that with clonezilla and monodorescue, they take exact copies, which means the target hw must be pretty much the same (device drivers etc).
http://www.mondorescue.org/docs/mond...VERVIEW-SYSREQ.

To be able to put it on 'any' hw, you'll need to do an install (fresh) of the bare OS, then backup/restore appdata separately.
um, while that is 100% true with the MS world, that is not true with Linux. The kernel for the most part will resolve 98% of the hardware on its own and as long as you are not using unsupported hardware (hardware that does not work in Linux anyways) you will/should be just fine, thus the use of DD or any of the other options.

Now if you said for better performance, cleaner system, etc... then yes that would be the ideal way to perform the backup transfer as i mentioned above.
 
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98% isn't good enough if its a disk drive device driver that's missing ... been there, done that ....
 
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98% isn't good enough if its a disk drive device driver that's missing ... been there, done that ....
if the HDD device driver is not there then see above, you are not using a supported bit of hardware on todays kernel.
 
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2 things. I tried it with current clonezilla last night and it wouldn't put the image onto DVD's, so sorry for the bad advice. It makes an image, but not a DVD ISO image (unless I'm doing it wrong).

As far as in the MS world is concerned, an image of a good windows install is as good as gold. My friend was busting my chops about why would I go through the lengthy Slackware install. It took several hours longer to get windows up and running because of service packs and updates. Once you have a windows image swapping the divers is a breeze, especially if you (and we pretty much all do here) know how to use a live linux distro.
 
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2 things. I tried it with current clonezilla last night and it wouldn't put the image onto DVD's, so sorry for the bad advice. It makes an image, but not a DVD ISO image (unless I'm doing it wrong).

As far as in the MS world is concerned, an image of a good windows install is as good as gold. My friend was busting my chops about why would I go through the lengthy Slackware install. It took several hours longer to get windows up and running because of service packs and updates. Once you have a windows image swapping the divers is a breeze, especially if you (and we pretty much all do here) know how to use a live linux distro.
um so you are saying with a valid image of MS winFOO (xp, vista, 7, 8) you can just take that HDD and drop it into an other computer and things will work? i know for a fact that is 95% false in XP, and 99.999% false in Vista and newer. the HAL will barf and blow up. Hell just updating BIOS drivers can cause a working Vista or newer OS to crash and refuse to function because the "hardware" changed more then is allowed.

If you have hardware archetype (ie from AMD to Intel) that will crash any MS OS, and changing just something as simple as the HDD control driver can/will cause Vista and new to toss up a kernel panic that you can not recover from other then reinstalling the OS.

no in the MS world, that is a nightmare. Used to not be so bad win2k and earlier. In fact in win98SE you could even swap archetype and still have a fairly good shot of getting the OS to boot so you could install drivers. win2k was not as nice, and im not even going to talk about the nightmare that was Me.

Since Vista MS has changed how the OS responds to change in hardware. If you change to much hardware you will have to either re-license the OS, or run a very high risk of a blue screen of death (kernel panic) that will refuse to boot and you will not be able to recover from other then a fresh OS install.

Linux is far more kind and the modern kernel (since 2.6 and newer at the least and maybe even as far back as 2.4) will have enough modules to detect and run on just about any hardware you put it in. Again this boils down to my first post and my clarification statement. If the hardware does not work in linux, well then you are just FUBAR anyways.

I routinely take HDDs out of AMD systems and move them to Intel and vis a vis with zero issues provided the hardware on both systems works in the first place under linux.
 
Old 08-07-2013, 12:00 AM   #12
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I'm saying that cloning a fresh build of windows is quicker than installing it from scratch most of the time. Its about a 6 hour job correctly installing windows 7 from scratch on a PC, and takes a lot less time using cloning software and a couple of bootable utilities disks.

Linux is far more kind, but most times people won't pay you to reinstall Linux for them.

Necessity is the mother of invention and all.
 
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I'm saying that cloning a fresh build of windows is quicker than installing it from scratch most of the time. Its about a 6 hour job correctly installing windows 7 from scratch on a PC, and takes a lot less time using cloning software and a couple of bootable utilities disks.

Linux is far more kind, but most times people won't pay you to reinstall Linux for them.

Necessity is the mother of invention and all.
got ya, but it is not a 7hr install of win7. that was true back for winXP, but a full win7 pro including updates and SP can be performed in under 2hrs. about a little longer then it takes to perform a full install of Fedora 19 including updates and getting the system full media ready.

Cloning is always faster then fresh install. Ghost used to be my friend when i worked in a MS environment. 5min instal of full OS, permissions, etc. then just ghostwalk and poof are you ready to go.

i refuse to instal win8, just never going to happen.
 
Old 08-07-2013, 09:06 PM   #14
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hi all,
i'm so thanks for you guys reply. i got it by monodorescue. Clonezilla can not work on my machine, i'm find why . so thanks you guys
 
  


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