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Old 02-06-2016, 08:35 AM   #1
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Why do the apps as games, softwares want to use photo, mail adress and some other personal informations?


Hello everyone,
I have been paying attention for a long time to the softwares like apps, programs, even operating systems which want to use our personal informations which are, in this way, disturbing and make me feel as if I am followed by a spy.
If we go around earnestly, for example, even though we have a chance to turning off recording (which is I donít trust, even our searches may be recorded in a way which is at least I believe like that) for most of them, the Gmail account saves our links that we searched. As similar way Hotmail wants to store some things in OneDrive (think a little bit here; a OneDrive account provides us 30 gb, if we sign up with 5 accounts we have 150 gb. 10 accounts are equals 300 gb. It is great, isnít it? However, why do they provide us this quota? How much 300 gb HDD if we purchase? Again as my thought they collect information easily in this way, and as me the information is priceless). How it would happen if you work in intelligence, doesnít an information be easy which is important come to you by a mail? ďIt seems logical to me.Ē
Anyway, later on, most of the softwares wants to use our informations like Email addresses, locations and sometimes if we don't permit usage of those informations we can't use that app. On the other hand, some of them want to use photographs which is a thing I havenít understood until now and really wonder what they will do my photos? A question like; ďare peopleís informations collected?Ē comes to personís mind. May be I also magnify but what do you think, what is the exact purpose of the people or firms that present games, operating systems, apps by collecting informations as you?
 
Old 02-06-2016, 10:35 AM   #2
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what is the exact purpose of the people or firms that present games, operating systems, apps by collecting informations as you?
They want to sell this information to advertisers. They can charge more money per advertisement if they can say that the ads are only directed at people who would be interested in the product. For example, they could tell a company that makes a wrinkle remover cream that their ads will only be shown to women over 55.

Advertising agencies have always tried to target ads. For example, fifty years ago if a company wanted to advertise a new fishing reel they would buy ads in "Field and Stream". They would not buy ads in "Vanity Fair" and they would not buy ads on a TV soap opera.

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Old 02-07-2016, 08:00 AM   #3
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Actually, we don't know what they can do with this information. There is potentially-deadly danger to society even from possessing it.

Perhaps the most-serious problem is that we have absolutely no laws. Yet. In a typical data center there are no effective internal controls ... and (although you may incorrectly brand me as 'racist' for saying it) we have hired millions of people from foreign lands simply because we could hold them in (unconstitutional) conditions of indentured servitude through immigration law. We don't seem to know or care just where these people came from, nor where they go back to. It has not yet dawned on us just how much data can be packed into a semiconductor chip that can be put beneath a postage stamp. Furthermore, we have constructed a "happy little Cloud" in which we put entire data centers in third-world locations for no more reason that "labor and electric power are 'cheap' there."

And so on.

The first and foremost thing that you must do is simply not to provide that information, truthfully, to anyone. For any claimed or "necessary" or "trust us" reason whatsoever.

The second thing that all of us in this industry must do, is to scream from the rooftops until someone in a position of power (a) cannot fail to hear us, and (b) perceives that he must hear us even though there are dozens of company representatives in his waiting room with million-dollar "free speeches" in their pockets.

Because ... one day, the sh*t will hit the fan ... and it will be bigger than anyone wanted to think but not as big (we hope!) as can easily be foreseen ... and it will devastate our industry as we know it today.

I'm not pulling punches, I think, when I describe what may happen as "an act of war." A "Pearl Harbor" event that takes place "everywhere and anywhere at once," and from which no one thinks they can hide because they can't hide.

"I said nothing, because they did not come for me. Then, they came for me."
 
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Old 02-08-2016, 01:08 PM   #4
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Why do the apps as games, softwares want to use photo, mail adress and some other personal informations?
haha, welcome to the world of online data mining.
but, being a linux user and all, you know that there are alternatives, right? you make it sound like you don't have a choice.
 
Old 02-13-2016, 09:32 PM   #5
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haha, welcome to the world of online data mining.
but, being a linux user and all, you know that there are alternatives, right? you make it sound like you don't have a choice.
I'm curious what suggestions you have, other than the obvious "Don't give them any accurate information". Would you mind sharing?
 
Old 02-14-2016, 09:23 AM   #6
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I'm curious what suggestions you have, other than the obvious "Don't give them any accurate information". Would you mind sharing?
i don't think that "don't give them any accurate information" is obvious.
or, at least it's not that easy to achieve.
first of all, don't use google.
not gmail, not google search, and block all ads and other intrusive domains and third party scripts and fonts and whatnot (just install an addon like noscript or requestpolicy to see how much each and every website actually relies on google!).
no webmail at all.
no location sharing (although your IP usually reveals enough).
don't blindly "Click to agree".
don't use the free offer, that only requires you to supply an email address and send a reply from it.
or if you must, use a disposable email address, and use it over the tor network. make sure it is not connected to existing addresses in any way (google is very good at sniffing that out).

all that already implies that you don't connect your android device to your google account - because you don't have one - but i won't go further into smartphones, it's a whole new can of worms.

never give combined personal information on the world wide web (i mean for example: your email address and your phone number).

do not use google chrome.

choose security over convenience.
big thing, that. so many people simply don't do it, if it takes 5 clicks instead of one.
example: fiddle around with noscript & requestpolicy until you get your internet banking to work. or until you can actually read the article someone sent you a link.

these are just a few examples.

other people choose firewalls, and others don't do internet banking at all.

this list is not complete.
there's no 100percent solution.

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