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Old 08-29-2005, 09:57 PM   #31
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kencaz - I agree with you 100%, however I do have two points of my own. First off, I am not a therapist/psychiatrist/doctor/social worker/whatever, so I am in no position to offer evaluation of anyone. I'm not qualified for that. I am qualified to be a computer geek. Secondly, if her internet behavior was a factor in the initial problems, then locking the computer down is a factor. It's like locking down prescription painkillers when a drug addict is coming into your house. It's one part of a bigger problem.
 
Old 08-29-2005, 10:08 PM   #32
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kencaz - I agree with you 100%, however I do have two points of my own. First off, I am not a therapist/psychiatrist/doctor/social worker/whatever, so I am in no position to offer evaluation of anyone. I'm not qualified for that. I am qualified to be a computer geek. Secondly, if her internet behavior was a factor in the initial problems, then locking the computer down is a factor. It's like locking down prescription painkillers when a drug addict is coming into your house. It's one part of a bigger problem.
I realize that and I am not either a therapist, however, this is common sense here... Throught the damn computer out the window if need be... His Sister/Slash/Her Kids are priority wheather he likes it or not... What you and I and the OP thinks does not matter... Those kids do...!!! I am sorry if I am bing a pest on this but I truelly hate it when people bring kids in this world and fail to take responsability for their actions... It's disgusting to me that someone brings a child into this world and then decides it's to much trouble to take care of...

This is a problem beyond this forum but Kids are the future mankind and we need to nurture and take care of them, dispite our stupid disissions...

KC
 
Old 08-30-2005, 12:15 AM   #33
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It isn't our place to judge or anything, the OP was obviously reluctant to talk about it in the first place, so can't we just keep it technical instead of all chiming in with what (seems) like common sense to us?
Anyways, does she use browser based chat, or a chat program (like Gaim). If she is using Gaim or the like, you could chown it to a restricted user, or remove all icons / traces of it from view, then rename it to something obscure, so you have to type "timetodance" in the terminal just to get Gaim to open up
Hehe just throwing some ideas out there...
 
Old 08-30-2005, 12:33 AM   #34
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well i don't want to have to login in and out everytime i want to use my computer
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it doesn't have automatic login so she would be stuck at the login screen.
These two statements seem contradictory.
 
Old 08-30-2005, 05:42 AM   #35
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What are you guys talking about... We are not talking about a computer here, Plastic and some electronic components... We are talking about human beings... Children that did not have a choice to come into this world other then the mother and father and we are considering the mother here...

Please... Let's focus on the issue of the kids here... this is rediculous... I know this is a Linux board but sheesh... This boy/man needs to stand up to whover, and take some responsobility and make sure these kids are taken care of...

The OP states the mother's un-willingness to help her children so you need to step up the the plate and make sure these kids are taken care of... I don't know how old the OP is, but still, If your old enough to post such a question then you certainly have an opinion on what you posted.

Please! Do not make these kids suffer for what your sister may have or have not done... It's up to you to take a stand and get her some help... Forget about the computer it is irrelevant.

Sheesh....

KC
the children are with their fathers and they keep in contact with us so we can talk with the kids. they seem to be stepping up to the plate.
 
Old 08-30-2005, 08:31 AM   #36
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For a KDE user:

1. got to K Menu > and select Control Center
PROCEED IF YOU HAVE NO PASSWORD FOR YOUR IDENTITY (usualy on linux you should), ELSE SKIP STEPS 2 to 5
2. once there select "Security & Privacy" tab
3. select "Password & User Account"
4. click "Change Password..." button at the bottom and follow the instructions there
NOW THAT YOU HAVE A PASSWORD PROTECTION FORR YOUR IDENTITY:
5. click "Apply" button in the right-bottom corner, then "Back" button (it's in the top-left corner)
6. click "Appearance & Themes"
7. click "Screen Saver" tab
8. make sure the check boxes "Start automatically" and "Require password after stop" are checked; also adjust the delays (the numbers on "Auto" lines) according to your preferences.
9. click "Apply" button in the right-bottom corner, then click "Back" button
10. click "Regional & Accessibility"
11. click "Keyboard Shortcuts"
12. Now, for the next and final step we will need "pause/break" function button of your actual physical keyboard; it's usually located in the top-right corner, next to the "scroll lock" button. (please make sure this button isn't already in use. to do so please press the button and wait for a while - if there was no effect it isn't in use and we can preceded)
13. in the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab make sure you are on "Shortcut Schemes" sub-tab and "Global Shortcuts" sub-sub-tab
14. Enter a word "Lock" in the "Search" line at the top of "Global Shortcuts" sub-sub-tab
15. Only one "Action" should become visible in the table under: "Lock Session" it is.
16. Click on that ("Lock Session") entry.
17. At the bottom of the window, under the table where actions are listed there is a "Shortcut for Selected Action" area. In that area click upon a square shape that looks like a button.
18. A new window called "Configure Shortcut" is now visible. In this window there are two entries: "Primary Shortcut" and "Alternate Shortcut"
19. Click on "X" button located to the right of "Primary Shortcut" label - a square on the right should become empty now. Once it does press "Pause" button on your physical keyboard.
A "Configure Shortcut" window should now close automatically and a square shape that looks like a button should now have a word Pause written on it.
20. click "Apply" button in the right-bottom corner.
21. Close Control Center.
Clearly this is *much* easier thnan having to enter a user/pass at login/unlock...
 
Old 08-30-2005, 08:43 AM   #37
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These two statements seem contradictory.
no. i have to login to the system at least once when i turn it on. i just leave it on. I was saying i don't want to have to turn it on and off and log in and out fo the system everytime. Obviously if the computer is restarted i'd have to log back because the reboot would kick me out.
 
Old 08-30-2005, 09:46 AM   #38
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no. i have to login to the system at least once when i turn it on. i just leave it on. I was saying i don't want to have to turn it on and off and log in and out fo the system everytime. Obviously if the computer is restarted i'd have to log back because the reboot would kick me out.
What you want to do and what you should do are apparently two entirely different things, doc. You need to have a (non-root) account for yourself, and another one for your arch-enemy, and root itself, which only you control. In this way, the two environments will be entirely separated. She won't be able to affect any of your files, nor any of your preferences, but will see exactly the environment that she left behind when she logged-out last. As will you. This is what Linux/Unix is designed to do, and you simply need to take advantage of it.

It is never a good idea to "leave a computer logged-in." Nor should you ever be able to "log in without a password." I don't care how "convenient" it is, because the reality is that login/logout takes only a few seconds. This is the solution to your problem, and it sounds like you need to find every way that you can to avoid conflicts with your sister...
 
Old 08-30-2005, 11:31 AM   #39
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Clearly this is *much* easier thnan having to enter a user/pass at login/unlock...
Yes, it actually is.
This way you don't have to wait a whole minute for your favorite desktop environment (KDE/GNOME) to reload. And all you have to enter here is your password.

I do this all the time since my Laptop has some files and numbers I DON'T want my coworkers to go through. I have a special "Action Button" on my HP Pavilion with a picture on a lock on it; I'm using it to lick my session, rather then "Pause" button as I suggested in my earlier post.

And people, let's NOT stick our noses into the businesses that are NONE of our concern!!!
A guy have asked a specific question, it's now answered. That is it. Topic should be closed. If he wanted a solution for his sister's problem he would(should have) posted a question on some psychological forum and NOT here.
 
Old 08-31-2005, 08:57 AM   #40
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For me I simply press CTRL + ALT + F1 and all another user sees is X gibberish, no one in my house knows about CTRL + ALT + F7 to get back...
 
Old 08-31-2005, 01:43 PM   #41
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What you want to do and what you should do are apparently two entirely different things, doc. You need to have a (non-root) account for yourself, and another one for your arch-enemy, and root itself, which only you control. In this way, the two environments will be entirely separated. She won't be able to affect any of your files, nor any of your preferences, but will see exactly the environment that she left behind when she logged-out last. As will you. This is what Linux/Unix is designed to do, and you simply need to take advantage of it.

It is never a good idea to "leave a computer logged-in." Nor should you ever be able to "log in without a password." I don't care how "convenient" it is, because the reality is that login/logout takes only a few seconds. This is the solution to your problem, and it sounds like you need to find every way that you can to avoid conflicts with your sister...
i do have a non-root account for myself. i never said i don't have to put in a password to log in. I am not worried about her messing with the system. I know she wouldn't even know how to install stuff because she only uses windows. I just don't want her to use my computer period.
 
Old 08-31-2005, 07:08 PM   #42
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I just don't want her to use my computer period.
Lock your door.
Kick her out when (not if) she breaks in.
Stop being an enabler.
 
Old 09-02-2005, 03:34 PM   #43
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in mandrake lock session. or why not boot in safe mode. dont know how tech savy this person is but i know my wife or brother cant seem to get it running.remove ethernet cable or phone cord, no connection = no fun. take the cable from monitor to the p.c and say it broken.
 
  


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